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Old 28th Apr 2012, 11:32
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Zoom a Scottish airline? Did i miss something? Or is this in par with the Belfast Telegraphs usual record for accuracy on facts?
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I think the reference is to the Boyles, who owned the airline and were Scottish.
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Old 28th Apr 2012, 14:42
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Before that it was operated by Air Canada
I have absolutely no recollection of AC ever operating to BFS? Please correct me if I am wrong!

Not related to this topic but did BWIA ever fly from BFS, I vaguely recall them hoping to do scheduled flights from MAN, BFS and PIK using Tristars to the Caribbean back in the 90's?

Abu Dhabi - given the success of EY and EK out of DUB maybe this is possible from BFS, but would EY realistically operate from both airports or is it that they are looking to decamp to BFS and let EK take over at DUB? Interesting.
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Old 28th Apr 2012, 15:00
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BWIA had flights on-sale BFS - POS, with the flight originating in MAN, using an A340. Falcon Holidays actually printed a dedicated brochure for the destination. Unfortunately in the end I think only about three flights ever operated, back in March / April 2005.

Belfast has had a long history with Canadian flights. Air Canada operated the L1011 and the B747 into Belfast, serving both Vancouver and Toronto.

Other operators have included, off the top of my head, Air Club International, Canada 3000, Worldways, Zoom, Globespan, Air Transat and Skyservice.
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Old 28th Apr 2012, 15:56
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I doubt that Etihad would pull out from Dublin if it started services to Belfast were The taxes are higher. I can see Etihad serving both Dublin & Belfast. Etihad wouldn't leave Dublin see as how it has a sponsorship with GAA there and Etihad are increasing their presence in The Republic. Etihad Dublin-Abu Dhabi is still performing exceptionally well now that it has competition with Emirates to Dubai.
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Abu Dhabi - given the success of EY and EK out of DUB maybe this is possible from BFS, but would EY realistically operate from both airports or is it that they are looking to decamp to BFS and let EK take over at DUB? Interesting.
Not a chance of them leaving DUB. If they did they would be closing there maintance base and lose a good customer base. Quiet a lot of people feel that it will be upgraded to a B777 at some time in the short term and then EY have already confirmed plans to fly there B787 from 2014.

If they start BFS it will most lightly be A330 at 4 weekly like they did when they started at DUB. There is room for both airports but DUB will win hands down on price which may still draw passengers from NI to DUB.

TBH I don't see BFS happening but you never know...Canada has a higher chance in my book.
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Old 28th Apr 2012, 19:54
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TBH I don't see BFS happening but you never know...Canada has a higher chance in my book.
I second that.
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Old 28th Apr 2012, 20:37
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All I know is the country(alleged). That it will be a twice monthly
charter......and the equipment is an Airbus 330 or 340



If they start BFS it will most lightly be A330 at 4 weekly like they did when
they started at DUB
Eastern Wiseguy was the 1st person to bring us a whisper of this potential new route, though it was rumour there was substance. He said as above the rumour was twice a month.

My fear is that 330 is too big, they will be after Australia, NZ, Thailand Asia market, though Abu DHabi is a good crossroad for African points too. I cant see them working at more than at most 1 to 2 rotations per week.

I would also agree that Toronto must surely be a bigger opportunity for passenger numbers given the links between NI and Canada.

The upside of getting Etihad in is that it is owned and funded by UAE government, so as a competitive advantage over Emirates at Dublin, Etihad may want to have a second airport available to people on the Island. They have built the Dublin Abu DHabi route up and Emirates have come in too now, providing competition, so BFS may be another string to their bow, so if they commit, they will stick around, they think long term and have very deep pockets.


AirCananda, I read that they flew to BFS in 80s/90s, never did see it with my own eyes but remember reading of it, saw pictures also. I think it may have been a charter. AC did Dublin charters in the 1990s also, did see those coming in on a saturday, with 747-200.

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Old 29th Apr 2012, 12:57
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I remember seeing Canada 3000 a good few years back - that brings back memories. It would be great to see a Canadian route again. Where did the Air Transat A310 fly to when it was last at BFS - was it a Toronto route?

Just as I thought back to some of the old operators I always recall the American Trans Air (Tristar?) that used to always be parked on 27. I can't remember the route but always remember it coming in.That must be a fair while ago now.
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Old 29th Apr 2012, 17:09
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Anyone know what the story is regarding stands 16 & 17 (I think). There were 2 Airbuses parked beside each other, and what looked like another Taxi Line between them. Have they created a new stand like 25A & 26A. Also seem closer to the building?
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Old 29th Apr 2012, 20:00
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My guess is that with the potential new long haul routes they are being proactive and looking at stands for wide bodies. The area of 16/17 is the last real suitable place that a widebody could park that hasn't been marked out already. And yes the stands were to be moved closer, less of a walk for PAX, by how much I don't know
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Old 29th Apr 2012, 20:38
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Plenty of room on the international pier for wide bodied aircraft,st21,22,25A,27A.I think it could be something to do with a new airbridge to welcome back an old customer.Answers on a postcard please,
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Old 29th Apr 2012, 21:08
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Stand 16 has been enlarged to park B757 sized aircraft and a new stand 16a has been built to facilitate wider bodied aircraft aswell.
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Old 29th Apr 2012, 21:08
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Only widebody stands is 22 and 25/27A. Stand 21 is only suitable for max size of A321.
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Old 30th Apr 2012, 18:28
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Thomas Cook, Thomson & Charters

What are the charter routes like this year ? what destinations ? Frequency ? What aircraft will Thomson and Thomas Cook be basing this summer ? a321 ? 757 ?
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Old 30th Apr 2012, 18:58
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I wouldnt read too much into that given the shift in the fleet to 737's
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Old 1st May 2012, 14:18
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Anyone else seen the Hi Fly A340 at BFS yesterday and today parked over at RAF side at BFS. Still parked over at DA2 apron
Yeah I saw that, then they had a 330 and a Tristar parked over there the other day.
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Old 1st May 2012, 15:13
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What are the chances of Etihad being allowed to operate BFS-YYZ? A single aircraft with small BFS crew base could operate AUH-BFS-YYZ-BFS-AUH.

Gives a sweetener to Etihad in that we already know there is demand for a Canadian route that would help offset any initial loss of operating BFS-AUH. If I calculate right this arrangement would allow 3 weekly to AUH and 3 weekly to YYZ??

Kind of a win-win for all involved.
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Old 2nd May 2012, 03:23
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There is an ongoing dispute between Canada and UAE (the reason why EK switched a 380 onto the route to maximise the 3 weekly allocation) so the chances of a BFS-YYZ by Etihad seems remote.
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Old 2nd May 2012, 11:00
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cant see it happening, though in the past Canada 3000 operated YYZ-BFS-BCN, and i think they could sell seats on the Barcelona leg from here too
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