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Monday morning rant
This summer, Dublin Airport had 224 flights to and from North America every week, which is the equivalent of 32 flights per day. “We have better connectivity to North America than Gatwick or Manchester airports and more transatlantic flights than many large airports in continental Europe and the extra services that we welcomed this year are helping to boost our transfer passenger numbers,” Mr Harrison said. “Dublin Airport’s range of destinations and airlines provides unrivalled choice and convenience for passengers, not just in Ireland but also overseas,” he added.
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Sourced this from recent DAA press release.
Reason for posting is to move thread on from anal iterations of Jersey/ Bordeaux seasonal offerings to a First World aviation scene.
Belfast / NI needs a radical long term aviation policy focused on improving connectivity from the North of Ireland to Asia and North America. Not to pursue this will further diminish inward investment and economic growth.
A difficult but not impossible task. If you think that this is not possible think again.
Shannon is a striking example of radical and "unthinkable" ideas acted upon.
Here endeth the lesson
Hi
Sourced this from recent DAA press release.
Reason for posting is to move thread on from anal iterations of Jersey/ Bordeaux seasonal offerings to a First World aviation scene.
Belfast / NI needs a radical long term aviation policy focused on improving connectivity from the North of Ireland to Asia and North America. Not to pursue this will further diminish inward investment and economic growth.
A difficult but not impossible task. If you think that this is not possible think again.
Shannon is a striking example of radical and "unthinkable" ideas acted upon.
Here endeth the lesson
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Shannon has 6 carriers flying to North America because the main population centre in Munster, Cork is unable to compete for long haul services because of its short 7,000ft runway.
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Political thoughts aside. Is it not time that we just take on board that DUB is the international gateway to Ireland north and south and build on that and let the regional airports around the island function as just that..regional airports. What other countries in the world the size of this island have so many airports all trying to get what crumbs they can get Would it not be money better speant to try and get an Irish HS2 type train linking Belfast and Dublin Airport or at least make both parts of the island equal when taxing air fares!
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Political thoughts aside. Is it not time that we just take on board that DUB is the international gateway to Ireland north and south and build on that and let the regional airports around the island function as just that..regional airports. What other countries in the world the size of this island have so many airports all trying to get what crumbs they can get Would it not be money better speant to try and get an Irish HS2 type train linking Belfast and Dublin Airport or at least make both parts of the island equal when taxing air fares!
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which is the equivalent of 32 flights per day
AC/AA/DL/DL/UA/UA/US/US and EI x 6. I'm assuming that if they count each turnaround as two flights that gets them to 28, then adding in TS still leaves that number a little high...
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It's fourteen scheduled flights per day out of DUB to North America.
AC/AA/DL/DL/UA/UA/US/US and EI x 6. I'm assuming that if they count each turnaround as two flights that gets them to 28, then adding in TS still leaves that number a little high...
AC/AA/DL/DL/UA/UA/US/US and EI x 6. I'm assuming that if they count each turnaround as two flights that gets them to 28, then adding in TS still leaves that number a little high...
DL have 3 extra weekly
TS have 5 weekly
Can't remember but US may have 1 or two extra weekly as well.
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If the authorities in the Republic were serious about Dublin Airport, they would build a rail spur from the Belfast to Dublin line from north of Malahide to Dublin Airport and onwards through the Phoenix Park tunnel to Heuston station connecting up Cork, Waterford, Limerick, Galway, Kerry and all the stations along those rail lines to Dublin airport but it ain`t going to happen.
Belfast and Cork should continue to build up their infrastructure to bid for transatlantic traffic and attract more US direct investment to their regions where currently the vast majority goes into Dublin.
Belfast and Cork should continue to build up their infrastructure to bid for transatlantic traffic and attract more US direct investment to their regions where currently the vast majority goes into Dublin.
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Dublin is a bigger market than 2 belfast airports bigger in bound tourism and business traveller plus the airport and one main airline is state owned reason the government down south is handing all these airlines huge subsides and cheaper landing fee deals to get them through the quieter winter months belfast is not its has been in private ownership for years people who did not give a toss about it would not give it money to start up long haul routes in the past its no mystery that air canada,emerates, and delta had agreed to start flying from belfast but the spanish owner would not give start up subsides so where did they go dublin where they did get it now that belfast is under new ownership maybe they will put money on the table and start to fight to get some these airlines back into talks about flying from belfast.
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If the authorities in the Republic were serious about Dublin Airport, they would build a rail spur from the Belfast to Dublin line from north of Malahide to Dublin Airport and onwards through the Phoenix Park tunnel to Heuston station connecting up Cork, Waterford, Limerick, Galway, Kerry and all the stations along those rail lines to Dublin airport but it ain`t going to happen.
The whole project is being reviewed in 2015 when the next investment plan is announced and this project could have 2.2 billion made available for it. It would cost around 4 billion to fully complete. All major road projects have being completed so this is most likely to be granted. as many people want to and it will have the most benefit to transport in Dublin.
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I wish it were possible for Belfast to win some new transatlantic routes with a major carrier but in my thinking they have let Dublin get too far ahead and coupled with the US Border pre-clearance in DUB, the future is bleak unless Ryanair finally decide to send one of their 738s to New York/Boston to start a loco Transatlantic carrier. In that case, Belfast should be fighting tooth and nail to get MOL to base it in BFS.
And then some of you are talking about starting an Asian route, from N.Ireland???? shall we just call that a money pit and move on?
Someone else touched on it above, a lot of the backing for the DUB routes is from Govt subsidies. Seeing how everyone at Stormont has their GBBCA rose tinted glasses on, this is not likely to manifest itself at BFS any time soon!
And then some of you are talking about starting an Asian route, from N.Ireland???? shall we just call that a money pit and move on?
Someone else touched on it above, a lot of the backing for the DUB routes is from Govt subsidies. Seeing how everyone at Stormont has their GBBCA rose tinted glasses on, this is not likely to manifest itself at BFS any time soon!
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No routes operating from DUB are backed by governments. All operators are 100% commercial. The only discount carriers get in the first few years is airport charges, Clearly the DAA look for business and get airlines in. When did Belfast last get a new scheduled carrier, its being years and even in the good times airlines didn't come.
You got APD largely cut from North for long haul flights. Government money for air routes doesn't last forever and even if it was offered carriers still need the route to be viable after it is,
No routes operating from DUB are backed by governments. All operators are 100% commercial. The only discount carriers get in the first few years is airport charges, Clearly the DAA look for business and get airlines in. When did Belfast last get a new scheduled carrier, its being years and even in the good times airlines didn't come.
You got APD largely cut from North for long haul flights. Government money for air routes doesn't last forever and even if it was offered carriers still need the route to be viable after it is,
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