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I think EZY will need to add a third flight to SEN and BHX.
Still waiting for TFS, LPA, ACE and (TXL or SXF) to be added!!
I think EZY should base a 7th aircraft and start new routes SOON!!
Getting boring the same old bucket and spade routes.
BFS BHD
Still waiting for TFS, LPA, ACE and (TXL or SXF) to be added!!
I think EZY should base a 7th aircraft and start new routes SOON!!
Getting boring the same old bucket and spade routes.
BFS BHD
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PanPanetc......... asks
Then helpfully adds
Way to encourage dialogue.
Does anyone from inside the fences at our airports have anything of value to add, thats my question?
Then helpfully adds
Any truth in the rumour Aldergrove are looking for a Tumbleweed Operative from the start of the winter schedule?
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Didn't take long for the Aldergrove fan club to bite! Maybe a sense of humour is not welcome in your club? 
Maybe it's time to accept Aldergrove may well be a busted flush. The glory days of years ago are gone, the much needed investment didn't happen when it was doing well and there probably isn't the cash available now in these austere days. Harbour has raised its game from literally nothing while Aldergrove management past and present treated the potential threat from them with disdain, I think that has perhaps come to bite them now though.
Incidentally I see Harbour have released their financial report, some more interesting reading. Doesn't look like a struggling business to me at first glance anyway.
Maybe it's time to accept Aldergrove may well be a busted flush. The glory days of years ago are gone, the much needed investment didn't happen when it was doing well and there probably isn't the cash available now in these austere days. Harbour has raised its game from literally nothing while Aldergrove management past and present treated the potential threat from them with disdain, I think that has perhaps come to bite them now though.
Incidentally I see Harbour have released their financial report, some more interesting reading. Doesn't look like a struggling business to me at first glance anyway.
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Can't disagree much with the above. I do support BFS but I can't look at the place through rose tainted glasses.
No worth while investment since Abertis took over, just a relocation of a few stud walls here and there and a "quick lick of paint will do" attitude. The only money they spent was for that big empty building that leads up to central search where the queuing times are terrible during the few busy periods they have.
It pains me to say that BCA management have got their heads screwed on and Aldergrove is a laughing stock as far as an airport authority go. Take BCA's PR team for instance, look at the unveiling of the Mary Peters named Flybe aircraft as one example of good publicity. What do Aldergrove announce ?
BCA can announce the soon to be arrival of EI
Aldergrove announced the arrival of a few NITB concrete cows last month, I think the next announcement is that the Sunday market at Nutts corner will be relocating onto runway 25 to take advantage of the more favourable weather conditions.
So far we have heard rumours that,
FR are coming to BFS
Flybe and BA are moving to BFS
Virgin are coming to BFS
And I hate to admit that I believed some of that maybe true. Time is running out for some sort of miracle.
Aldergrove, as a civil airport is 50 years old next year.
Now where can I get that application form for the tumbleweed operative ?
No worth while investment since Abertis took over, just a relocation of a few stud walls here and there and a "quick lick of paint will do" attitude. The only money they spent was for that big empty building that leads up to central search where the queuing times are terrible during the few busy periods they have.
It pains me to say that BCA management have got their heads screwed on and Aldergrove is a laughing stock as far as an airport authority go. Take BCA's PR team for instance, look at the unveiling of the Mary Peters named Flybe aircraft as one example of good publicity. What do Aldergrove announce ?
BCA can announce the soon to be arrival of EI
Aldergrove announced the arrival of a few NITB concrete cows last month, I think the next announcement is that the Sunday market at Nutts corner will be relocating onto runway 25 to take advantage of the more favourable weather conditions.
So far we have heard rumours that,
FR are coming to BFS
Flybe and BA are moving to BFS
Virgin are coming to BFS
And I hate to admit that I believed some of that maybe true. Time is running out for some sort of miracle.
Aldergrove, as a civil airport is 50 years old next year.
Now where can I get that application form for the tumbleweed operative ?
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It's a good job they decided to do the departure food and retail area when they did or it may never have been done....
While I agree it's disappointing that we have not heard anything substantial for winter, I believe that the increase of domestic flights by EZY will offset the loss of EI in terms of flights per week during winter. Some airline out there is bound to want to run a summer schedule on EI's ex-bfs routes.
As for the tumbleweed job, no need to hire, plenty of people up there to keep an eye on them.
While I agree it's disappointing that we have not heard anything substantial for winter, I believe that the increase of domestic flights by EZY will offset the loss of EI in terms of flights per week during winter. Some airline out there is bound to want to run a summer schedule on EI's ex-bfs routes.
As for the tumbleweed job, no need to hire, plenty of people up there to keep an eye on them.
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It's an interesting exercise to compare investment over the last 10 years or so,
Harbour- new terminal, has also just completed an international arrivals hall. Runway resurfaced. New runway lights. New ILS on both ends. New NDB. New radar, primary and SSR. I believe they are also in the process of tendering for 3 new fire engines.
Aldergrove- 1 large bucket of B&Q value paint, 1 bag of quick set cement for runway repairs, err that's about it! Oh, mustn't forget about the supply of lemons that their security staff must chew before starting work.
It's no great secret that Harbours owners paid way over the odds for the place yet there is still money to invest and according to their accounts still a healthy profit to be made.
Harbour- new terminal, has also just completed an international arrivals hall. Runway resurfaced. New runway lights. New ILS on both ends. New NDB. New radar, primary and SSR. I believe they are also in the process of tendering for 3 new fire engines.
Aldergrove- 1 large bucket of B&Q value paint, 1 bag of quick set cement for runway repairs, err that's about it! Oh, mustn't forget about the supply of lemons that their security staff must chew before starting work.
It's no great secret that Harbours owners paid way over the odds for the place yet there is still money to invest and according to their accounts still a healthy profit to be made.
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The present and last Big Boss at Aldergrove are ex Harbour bosses, how does that all fit in to the mix? Surely they would have taken the knowledge of how Harbour did business with them??
I'm reliably informed that a major headache for Aldergrove is the amount of cash spent on the top heavy NATS contract. The ex Harbour bosses must cringe signing off on that contract when they know what it could really be done for!
I'm reliably informed that a major headache for Aldergrove is the amount of cash spent on the top heavy NATS contract. The ex Harbour bosses must cringe signing off on that contract when they know what it could really be done for!
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what dog means in yesterday morning there was really low cloud base at BFS and two aircraft diverted back to the mainland, just as another two were about to make the call to divert to BHD they got the all clear to land at BFS.
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Its put about planes can land in fog up there but at city they divert . yesterday .EZY and CO all diverted in morning and city were fine
There were 3 diverts
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There were 3 diverts
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Ryanair would close EI Belfast base if it got the green light for the EI takeover.
Ryanair plans to close Aer Lingus base at Gatwick if takeover bid succeeds
Strange if the EI base in Belfast is supposed to be profit making, and FR also have no presence at either Belfast airport....
Ryanair plans to close Aer Lingus base at Gatwick if takeover bid succeeds
Ryanair will shut Aer Lingus bases at Gatwick and Belfast and open a new base in Brussels to serve non-Irish routes if its bid to take control of the Irish carrier is approved by the European Commission, it revealed yesterday.
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Ryanair stated yesterday it would close Belfast and Gatwick in favour of a Brussels base! Stephen McNamara thinks Aer Lingus should compete with Brussels Airlines and easyJet.
Ryanair offers fresh concessions to snare Aer Lingus | Reuters
I wouldn't take much notice of what Ryanair say about Aer Lingus in Belfast.
Ryanair offers fresh concessions to snare Aer Lingus | Reuters
I wouldn't take much notice of what Ryanair say about Aer Lingus in Belfast.
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Ryanair did operate from Belfast City however they only use the 737-800, which had to oeprate with a minimum of 40 empty seats (which limits revenue to each flight) so it could take off from the short runway there. Because the runway extention never got the go-ahead, Ryanair pulled out of BHD. Aer Lingus use the A319/20, which can operate fully loaded from BHD if using full-throttle take-offs. I think the chances of Ryanair doing the same is slim since it would increase fuel costs. Ryanair never do full-throttle take-offs wherever it can be avoided.
Ryanair do not seem remotely interested in BFS and it's not really much of a surprise. It's bigger and more expensive whilst being further out from Belfast and to top it all, 85% or more of its flights are operated by EasyJet! I dare say if BHD got a runway extention to 2200m or whatever it was, Ryanair would without doubt be back in their like a shot!
Ryanair do not seem remotely interested in BFS and it's not really much of a surprise. It's bigger and more expensive whilst being further out from Belfast and to top it all, 85% or more of its flights are operated by EasyJet! I dare say if BHD got a runway extention to 2200m or whatever it was, Ryanair would without doubt be back in their like a shot!
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I'm fairly certain an airport's location in relation to the city it serves has never been a top concern for RYR.
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being further out from Belfast
Um... I dont think FR would be bothered by that look at some of their bases 'Glasgow' Prestwick, 'Frankfurt' Hahn, 'Milan' Bergamo, 'Paris' Beauvais, 'Stockholm' Skavsta, 'Rome' Ciampino. Lots of ryanair's bases are miles away from their Main destinations
being further out from Belfast
Um... I dont think FR would be bothered by that look at some of their bases 'Glasgow' Prestwick, 'Frankfurt' Hahn, 'Milan' Bergamo, 'Paris' Beauvais, 'Stockholm' Skavsta, 'Rome' Ciampino. Lots of ryanair's bases are miles away from their Main destinations