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Old 25th May 2017, 17:58
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Old 30th May 2017, 09:34
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anybody any idea why Palma to Leeds was sent to Birmingham early hours this morning? Thanks in advance
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Old 30th May 2017, 10:13
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Weather...

It was <300m in fog with active thunderstorms all around the field last night.
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Old 30th May 2017, 10:53
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thanks but landings were made at 12.15 /12.45/1.05/1.25


Find it strange one was diverted
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Old 31st May 2017, 01:59
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...

Weather moves in and out. Just because one aircraft can land, doesn't mean another one can later.

This was a weather divert.
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Old 31st May 2017, 02:05
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Given the weather conditions at the time: RVRs of around 350m, those landings were probably by Cat III Autoland equipped aircraft, the ones that diverted were likely not equipped or not authorised.

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Old 31st May 2017, 09:15
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Or were 737-800's that are landing performance limited and were likely too heavy to land in the fog, as extra landing distance is required over a manual landing.
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Old 31st May 2017, 13:48
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Originally Posted by RAFAT View Post
Given the weather conditions at the time: RVRs of around 350m, those landings were probably by Cat III Autoland equipped aircraft, the ones that diverted were likely not equipped or not authorised.
CAT III autolands aren't authorised at Leeds Bradford so they'll be flying to CAT I minimums
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Old 31st May 2017, 15:41
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Originally Posted by rubymurray View Post
CAT III autolands aren't authorised at Leeds Bradford so they'll be flying to CAT I minimums
Nope. That's not correct.
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Old 31st May 2017, 16:22
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[QUOTE
The companies B757's are Cat1 only at Leeds.[/QUOTE]

Not just Jet2s' 75s.
The trials for the 75 approval were pretty scary by all accounts, and wiser councils prevailed. So cat 1 only.
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Old 31st May 2017, 17:56
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As L1649 and Council Van stated, Jet2's 737s are approved for such landings on 32 at LBA, I've done several.
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Old 31st May 2017, 19:31
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Apologies, knew the 75s were CAT I only, didn't realise the 73s could do CAT III approaches
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Old 31st May 2017, 20:45
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Just CATIIIA I believe... 737 doesn't have rollout.
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Old 31st May 2017, 21:58
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Originally Posted by boyo975 View Post
Just CATIIIA I believe... 737 doesn't have rollout.
Do the light twins also only have just two Autopilots?
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Old 1st Jun 2017, 14:13
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CAT 3B is an option on the later 737NG. The modifications to the rudder servo made it possible to add the rollout feature. Yes, only two autopilots but improved monitoring with I think inputs from the standby Attitude and Heading Reference System make it workable. It's a cost option so not everyone buys it. I know it's fitted on the newer Thomson aircraft.
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Old 1st Jun 2017, 20:30
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No real need for it to be honest. In 13 and a bit years of operating the B737 with Cat3A fitted I've never needed anything other than that. Visibility so poor is so infrequent it's an additional cost for very little gain.
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Old 1st Jun 2017, 21:07
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Originally Posted by Johnny [email protected] Pants View Post
No real need for it to be honest. In 13 and a bit years of operating the B737 with Cat3A fitted I've never needed anything other than that. Visibility so poor is so infrequent it's an additional cost for very little gain.
I have been flying the NG for about the same time and have had exactly one diversion when 3b would have got us in. Having said that, the newer NGs are significantly improved, although an autoland go-around above alert height single engine flaps 30 (if you have the authorisation) is a pretty demanding manouevre.
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Old 2nd Jun 2017, 13:30
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Looks like the A330 being used on some of the New York winter flights. Can see it operating STN-EWR in the system at the minute.
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Old 2nd Jun 2017, 13:34
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Will be interesting to see which winter routes the A330 is used on. Can't see it sat around doing just 3 New York Shopping trips?
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Old 2nd Jun 2017, 13:39
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Originally Posted by lederhosen View Post
an autoland go-around above alert height single engine flaps 30 (if you have the authorisation) is a pretty demanding manouevre.
And at flap 40 it's even more of a handful, even when I knew it was coming in the sim.
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