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I think that's a fair comment from Bournemouth Air - There is a lot more space at BOH, and usually plenty of free stands. Maybe SOU offered a better deal for them (It flew to LHR and HAH also own SOU) or there could be other reasons for it...
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Flybe LGW slot sale.
It looks as though from the report written by Flybe that SOU could benefit from their exit from LGW and future cost-cutting, it suggests there could be more year-round leisure flying with the E195's and also that they will look to target a number of key business routes served by LHR/LGW. It also says they will look to target volume over yields a little more which should bring in some less expensive fares!
On a more local scale I would say we could potentially see an extra daily rotation to BHD and NCL next summer when the LGW routes are dropped as they no longer have to worry about keeping enough passengers on the LGW routes, and for the point-point passenger SOU is a reasonable alternative, and the extra flexibility offered would make it more attractive to the passengers who usually head London-wards for their UK travels. IOM is another route which we may see an increase on and also GCI/JER although this would depend on how much overlap there is/was with the LGW routes.
Link to report: http://www.flybe.com/corporate/inves...e-May-2013.pdf
On a more local scale I would say we could potentially see an extra daily rotation to BHD and NCL next summer when the LGW routes are dropped as they no longer have to worry about keeping enough passengers on the LGW routes, and for the point-point passenger SOU is a reasonable alternative, and the extra flexibility offered would make it more attractive to the passengers who usually head London-wards for their UK travels. IOM is another route which we may see an increase on and also GCI/JER although this would depend on how much overlap there is/was with the LGW routes.
Link to report: http://www.flybe.com/corporate/inves...e-May-2013.pdf
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Are Thomas Cook intending to operate any charter flights next year from SOU i know for the past few years they have charted FLYBE to operate to PMI , MAH and IBZ but nothing as such for next summer , normally they would have been on sale by now ?
edited 26 June
Talking to my Thomas Cook mate and they are finishing a final programme on 25 July to be published with any new UK airports to be added then
edited 26 June
Talking to my Thomas Cook mate and they are finishing a final programme on 25 July to be published with any new UK airports to be added then
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It seems Flybe have started to 'push' Southampton as an alternative to the London airports in some of the papers in fitting with what was said in their restructuring plan.
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I seems SOU will get a third new ski route for W13, Neilson are selling holidays to Andorra using a Flybe charter to Lleida–Alguaire every Sunday from 22nd December.
Although Jan-April have shown decreases in passenger numbers May/Jun have both seen increases (5/3.3%) and these should be accompanied with further increases from the more frequent sun routes in the next few months, plus the expanded Ski routes should mean we will see some increases over the winter. Overall I'd expect to see a small increase in annual passenger numbers over last year and a more extensive one for 2014 assuming nothing disastrous happens.
Although Jan-April have shown decreases in passenger numbers May/Jun have both seen increases (5/3.3%) and these should be accompanied with further increases from the more frequent sun routes in the next few months, plus the expanded Ski routes should mean we will see some increases over the winter. Overall I'd expect to see a small increase in annual passenger numbers over last year and a more extensive one for 2014 assuming nothing disastrous happens.
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Indeed, and I guess Flybe will be pinning even more hopes on the SOU base once flights from LGW finish at the end of the W13/14 season.
In addition to those new ski routes, GVA is also shown as daily (excl.Sat) from 27/10. From December, flights are double-daily on Sat. and Sun.
In addition to those new ski routes, GVA is also shown as daily (excl.Sat) from 27/10. From December, flights are double-daily on Sat. and Sun.
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Thomas Cook have started to load there 2 nd edition brochures for Summer 2014 and Southampton has now appeared
Friday Palma 1705 2220 Flybe shared at moment with scheduled flight
Saturday Verona 1220 1800 Flybe
Its possible that Ibiza and Mahon may yet still be loaded , but given Flybe have added many extra flights this year to the Med it could be swapping the local market
Friday Palma 1705 2220 Flybe shared at moment with scheduled flight
Saturday Verona 1220 1800 Flybe
Its possible that Ibiza and Mahon may yet still be loaded , but given Flybe have added many extra flights this year to the Med it could be swapping the local market
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Well if Thomas Cook do resort to selling seats on Flybe flights or even using another carrier it means 1 Embraer's on sat and 1/2 one Sun are now free, so there could be some room for some new routes or extra flights there.
Also worth noting Neilson are owned by Thomas Cook so the winter flights to Andorra are bookable through either website.
Also worth noting Neilson are owned by Thomas Cook so the winter flights to Andorra are bookable through either website.
As this is a rumour network, anyone able to verify or deny that Eddie Stobbart is intending to buy the soon to be closed Ford Motor Company plant adjacent to SOU, and if so the strategy behind purchase?
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On the subject of the Ford factory there have been quite a few BMW owned private jets in recently. Perhaps potential purchasers? Expand Mini production? Not sure why Stobart would want it. Plenty of land around Southampton to develop.
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Tcas Fan, One could only assume that Stobart would use it as a transport hub, they're into planes, trains and trucks, and they would have all three close by...good pre-emptive move if SOU came up for sale??? (I'm only speculating!)
Rivet Joint, Mini's are selling well abroad, expansion of the production would be good for BMW and those poor Ford workers to get their jobs back. Not onlt that but didn't the port export more cars than ever before? Would be an advantage to make the cars for export there.
Rivet Joint, Mini's are selling well abroad, expansion of the production would be good for BMW and those poor Ford workers to get their jobs back. Not onlt that but didn't the port export more cars than ever before? Would be an advantage to make the cars for export there.
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SOU developments?
The adjacent Ford factory officially ceases production end of this week and according to the local press it will take 8 months or so to de-commission the site although Ford are maintaining part of it for a vehicle refurbishment centre. Its probably too soon for firm plans about the future of the factory site but just to offer a little speculation......if the current Royal Mail depot on the airport side was moved to the Ford site it could, for example, make room for a new terminal. In the November 2006 airport Master Plan it was shown that by 2015 there would be a second apron and terminal on the Eastern side of the airfield. Since then there has been very little airport comment about any future plans but if anything is to happen in the next 2 years ( and here we are half way thorough 2013) then someone somewhere should be getting their slide rule out or does LHR holdings not see this as an opportunity. No idea where the Stobart rumour came from but would LHR Holdings sell off SOU?
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Zantopost thanks for the heads up. It would seem there could be potential though in them taking it on. Heard there was talk that the Oxford factory was flat out and that they were considering opening a factory in the Asia to supply demand for that region. Would rather they choose Southampton any day of the week.
Nakata77: You are speaking rubbish, one is the international hub of the country the other is a regional airport. Serve completely different markets. Just because LHR Holdings concentrate on their Jewel in the Crown (as anyone else would) doesn't mean they don't want Sou to grow. Put simply with the economy in its current state it would be madness to grow a regional airport. Granted they should loosen the purse strings a little on the airside front but maintaining what you have in times like this is smart. Take a look at BOH who invested millions in a new terminal when they have nothing more than a seasonal programme operating if you want an example.
Nakata77: You are speaking rubbish, one is the international hub of the country the other is a regional airport. Serve completely different markets. Just because LHR Holdings concentrate on their Jewel in the Crown (as anyone else would) doesn't mean they don't want Sou to grow. Put simply with the economy in its current state it would be madness to grow a regional airport. Granted they should loosen the purse strings a little on the airside front but maintaining what you have in times like this is smart. Take a look at BOH who invested millions in a new terminal when they have nothing more than a seasonal programme operating if you want an example.
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Re Ford Factory
Coincidence, or something to do with this from Motor Transport:
Southampton City Council is inviting local operators to run a sustainable distribution centre (SDC) and warehouse that will consolidate local deliveries. The aim is to cut lorry movements and congestion while boosting efficiencies.
The council has been awarded £225,000 from a central government local sustainable transport fund to fund the SDC, which will serve Southampton, Winchester, Eastleigh, Hedge End, Totton and the New Forest. The SDC will handle deliveries 24/7, grouping and delivering loads together as well as offering flexible and cheap storage.
Southampton City Council is inviting local operators to run a sustainable distribution centre (SDC) and warehouse that will consolidate local deliveries. The aim is to cut lorry movements and congestion while boosting efficiencies.
The council has been awarded £225,000 from a central government local sustainable transport fund to fund the SDC, which will serve Southampton, Winchester, Eastleigh, Hedge End, Totton and the New Forest. The SDC will handle deliveries 24/7, grouping and delivering loads together as well as offering flexible and cheap storage.