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I know this has probably been discussed before but i wonder what the performance range is of the following aircraft in max pax capacity and say 20kg bag each.
737-300/400/700
A319
A320
Maybe even an MD80
Thanks
737-300/400/700
A319
A320
Maybe even an MD80
Thanks
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Quick Update!
The Loganair Norwich flight has definatly been dropped, there is no longer any advertising and it cannot be booked.
It also looks like Dijon is unlikely to make a return this Summer, despite what Eastern said last year as it is not bookable or on the Summer Timetable, which can be seen here: http://www.southamptonairport.com/st...etable_SOU.pdf
No changes to IBZ, TUF or BCN although the flight times for Lyon and Nantes have been changed (although the PDF timetable does not currently show this); Lyon is now late morning/midday and Nantes is mid afternoon which is more attractive for leisure travellers and also the few who may use them to connect to/from!
Also Southampton remains on the Thomson website and drop-down menu although it is not bookable or operating but it makes me think they may try and re-instate PMI next summer if they can find an aircraft free to operate it.
Finally, its probably just a sign of the times and Flybe's dominance but I couldn't help but notice that there are only three routes with two airlines operating (JER, GCI and PMI, if you count the 'TCX' flight)!
It also looks like Dijon is unlikely to make a return this Summer, despite what Eastern said last year as it is not bookable or on the Summer Timetable, which can be seen here: http://www.southamptonairport.com/st...etable_SOU.pdf
No changes to IBZ, TUF or BCN although the flight times for Lyon and Nantes have been changed (although the PDF timetable does not currently show this); Lyon is now late morning/midday and Nantes is mid afternoon which is more attractive for leisure travellers and also the few who may use them to connect to/from!
Also Southampton remains on the Thomson website and drop-down menu although it is not bookable or operating but it makes me think they may try and re-instate PMI next summer if they can find an aircraft free to operate it.
Finally, its probably just a sign of the times and Flybe's dominance but I couldn't help but notice that there are only three routes with two airlines operating (JER, GCI and PMI, if you count the 'TCX' flight)!
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Fire & March Passengers
Apparently it was something going wrong in the control tower, however it was sorted out fairly quickly so any disruption was minimal.
Passengers down 1.7% in March at ~127,900 although so far this year passengers are up by 0.5% and rolling 12 months show an increase of 2.8% to ~1,764,100 passengers. SOU seems to be holding up fairly well considering the way the economy is and I expect to see more notable increases in the peak Summer period with the Olympics and new routes from Air France, Flybe, Thomas Cook and Vueling.
http://www.baa.com/static/BAA_Airpor...-March2012.pdf
Passengers down 1.7% in March at ~127,900 although so far this year passengers are up by 0.5% and rolling 12 months show an increase of 2.8% to ~1,764,100 passengers. SOU seems to be holding up fairly well considering the way the economy is and I expect to see more notable increases in the peak Summer period with the Olympics and new routes from Air France, Flybe, Thomas Cook and Vueling.
http://www.baa.com/static/BAA_Airpor...-March2012.pdf
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Was just reading about the Jetstream issue at SOU the other day - Incident: Eastern JS41 near Southampton on Apr 20th 2012, anti icing problem - putting the issue itself aside, astonished to see only 10pax? Are eastern going to regret saving this route for you SOU guys?
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6 Pax to BE on a JS41? I think someone got some math wrong somewhere. On a route like SOU-BRU, I'd suggest you'd need a little more than 6 pax to BE. But heyho, I don't know how T3 operates, 6 pax could well be their BE point.
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Breaking even
I've heard BE themselves can break even with around 25-30 pax on a Q400 which was one of the reasons why they didn't keep any Q300's or E145's. Although APD and the economy has probably bought up that figure a little recently!
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I think the low number of passengers on the Brussels flight will improve. Many regulars like me who book well in advance have flights with other airlines and will revert to T3 when they are exhausted.
Most of the others I have spoken to were not aware that the route had reopened, but they are now. Today will be my first flight on the renewed route and I am booked until the end of June for my weekly commute.
Most of the others I have spoken to were not aware that the route had reopened, but they are now. Today will be my first flight on the renewed route and I am booked until the end of June for my weekly commute.
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Flybe and EDINBURGH
Flybe's winter schedule released today, no new routes so far however EDI is apparently getting a based E175 to operate some of the EDI-SOU flights. Good to see the major domestic routes being upgraded although as always it again raises the question about what BAA are going to do about stands!!
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Flybe winter schedule
ADFLY: the problem isn't about BAA delaying on building or modifying stands, it's the age old problem of the dominant airline (in this case Flybe) not wanting the airport capacity opened up to competing airlines.
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Stands and Air France
St Germain - I do see your point about Flybe and their monoplay but you must remember that it is Flybe need extra stands more than anyone else as they are replacing most of the Q400's with E175's, which can only use stands 1-5 at the moment, and the 3 based E195' can only use 2-5.
When you add in Air France needing to use 1-5 for its Nantes flight (E170) and Vueling's A319 taking up either 2/3 or 3/4 3 times a week in the Summer then it is not hard to see that there is little space for flights on larger/taller aircraft to be added.
Its also worth noting that the CRJ700/900/1000 provide broadly similar capacities to the E-Jets (E195 excluded) while being able to use the Northern stands due to their low tails. Brit Air, Air Nostrum and Lufthansa Cityline all have large CRJ fleets which could work well from SOU from an operational point of view.
Finally the Air France Lyon service, following it time change has been changed to an E145, quite a big difference in capacity vs the E190! Nantes is unchanged aircraft wise with the first flight being an E145 and the rest on E170's.
When you add in Air France needing to use 1-5 for its Nantes flight (E170) and Vueling's A319 taking up either 2/3 or 3/4 3 times a week in the Summer then it is not hard to see that there is little space for flights on larger/taller aircraft to be added.
Its also worth noting that the CRJ700/900/1000 provide broadly similar capacities to the E-Jets (E195 excluded) while being able to use the Northern stands due to their low tails. Brit Air, Air Nostrum and Lufthansa Cityline all have large CRJ fleets which could work well from SOU from an operational point of view.
Finally the Air France Lyon service, following it time change has been changed to an E145, quite a big difference in capacity vs the E190! Nantes is unchanged aircraft wise with the first flight being an E145 and the rest on E170's.
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Stand lights are being upgraded to LED lights. LED's massively improve the spread of light across the stand and will also improve the stand marking visibility in wet conditions.
