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Annual profit levels of SOU?
I can't find SOU report and accounts anywhere, but it is a public company so the information should be available. How much does the airport make each year in profit?
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Nakata: you didn't look hard enough.
Profit before interest and tax was 10m in 2011 calendar year.
This is from a total revenue stream of 28m. (16m of which is Aeronautical, 9m is retail and 2m is property. 'Other' accounts for the 1m left whatever that is)
Profit before interest and tax was 10m in 2011 calendar year.
This is from a total revenue stream of 28m. (16m of which is Aeronautical, 9m is retail and 2m is property. 'Other' accounts for the 1m left whatever that is)
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Thomas Cook are adding Verona next summer selling seats on Flybe's scheduled Saturday flight. They must be quite happy with SOU as they have added routes fairly eagerly, I think we may eventually see some of the Balearic flights on TCX metal (most likely A320's) but I suppose that depends on the availability of aircraft.
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Looks like Vuelling are only operating till the end of Sept with the Oct flights not now bookable
figures for August on a A319 150 seater were 2350 passengers with a 60 % load factor ( 90 pax roughly )
figures for August on a A319 150 seater were 2350 passengers with a 60 % load factor ( 90 pax roughly )
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Nope, no we can't! 
Although I maintain if Vueling released the flights earlier then they would have done better, they missed out on the peak summer holiday booking period (Jan-Feb) as the route was released quite late and combined with a hopefully slightly less bad economy next year (better is a too ambitious term!) means their is a very small chance they may be back...
...which will probably disappear if/when Flybe launch SOU-BCN to compliment their new EXT route.
Although I maintain if Vueling released the flights earlier then they would have done better, they missed out on the peak summer holiday booking period (Jan-Feb) as the route was released quite late and combined with a hopefully slightly less bad economy next year (better is a too ambitious term!) means their is a very small chance they may be back......which will probably disappear if/when Flybe launch SOU-BCN to compliment their new EXT route.
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2 things.
Mixed news at Flybe International (Sorry SOU!), I'll start with the bad; being said over in the Skybus thread that they will drop SOU and BRS to focus on their shorter routes and expand them to make up for the loss of the BIH service to the Isles of Scily.
On a potentially lighter note I passed by the airport today and am certain that I saw an Embraer (Presumably a E175) parked on the Eastern Apron (Stand 6), possibly a little further forward than normal although I do not know the norm. Can anyone shed any light on this, as it would be very beneficial for any Flybe expansion if the E175's are able to use the eastern apron!
On a potentially lighter note I passed by the airport today and am certain that I saw an Embraer (Presumably a E175) parked on the Eastern Apron (Stand 6), possibly a little further forward than normal although I do not know the norm. Can anyone shed any light on this, as it would be very beneficial for any Flybe expansion if the E175's are able to use the eastern apron!
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Surely BCN is a no brainer for BE now? 90 would fit very well on the 195 3 times a week. Surely the market has been tested now? Going to hazard a guess that BE carry on ignoring this obvious route as they have done since 2004 though!
Newsflash BE, if you have a monopoly build on it, spreading yourself thin in a foolish attempt to put your fingers in every pie leads to all the bricks tumbling down
. Route/ fleet reductions and whoring yourself out to flag carriers anyone? 
Newsflash BE, if you have a monopoly build on it, spreading yourself thin in a foolish attempt to put your fingers in every pie leads to all the bricks tumbling down
. Route/ fleet reductions and whoring yourself out to flag carriers anyone?
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Flybe cannot win, either they are getting stick for having a monopoly (Flybe International, really!!??) or being told to exploit it.
With respect Rivetjoint, Vueling have not yet confirmed they are not returning next year. Also, 90 passenger may have been an average but whats the yield? If BE have to sell every seat for £40 they are not going to want to do the route as it simply would not pay for itself let alone make any profit.
Flybe have not done badly out of Southampton, and likewise Southampton and its residents have not done badly out of Flybe. It remains one of the largest stations and I am sure those responsible for routes know far more of what they are doing than any of us on here.
Besides Flybe, other operators are frequent visitors in to Southampton albeit on a much smaller scale. They could if they wanted to create new routes but they do not - why? Because creating new routes in the current climate is risky and not all of the carriers have the financial support or brand awareness for them to succeed.
With respect Rivetjoint, Vueling have not yet confirmed they are not returning next year. Also, 90 passenger may have been an average but whats the yield? If BE have to sell every seat for £40 they are not going to want to do the route as it simply would not pay for itself let alone make any profit.
Flybe have not done badly out of Southampton, and likewise Southampton and its residents have not done badly out of Flybe. It remains one of the largest stations and I am sure those responsible for routes know far more of what they are doing than any of us on here.
Besides Flybe, other operators are frequent visitors in to Southampton albeit on a much smaller scale. They could if they wanted to create new routes but they do not - why? Because creating new routes in the current climate is risky and not all of the carriers have the financial support or brand awareness for them to succeed.
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Any reason for the E175 parked on the western apron? I thought that aircraft with tails taller than 9m were unable to park there due to runway clearances, I believe the E170/5 tail is around 9.6m. Or has somebody bent one of the rules/found an invisible solution?!
Two Flybe flight have stopped off at BOH today - the Alicante and the Malaga.
Could be a problem in lifting enough fuel of the runway at SOU with the payload and forecast weather today - hence dive into BOH for more fuel. Just a possibilty - it used to happen in the old BAE 146 days.
Just checked some weather charts - strong south westerly to southerly jetstream over Spain and France today hence stong headwinds on the way down - so it is likely to be a fuel load problem.
Could be a problem in lifting enough fuel of the runway at SOU with the payload and forecast weather today - hence dive into BOH for more fuel. Just a possibilty - it used to happen in the old BAE 146 days.
Just checked some weather charts - strong south westerly to southerly jetstream over Spain and France today hence stong headwinds on the way down - so it is likely to be a fuel load problem.
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Two Flybe flight have stopped off at BOH today - the Alicante and the Malaga
Seem to recall many many moons ago when Princess Air use to operate a 146, on one such flight from SOU, half the passengers were offloaded before take off and coached to BOH. The aircraft took off from SOU with a partial fuel load, landed and topped off at BOH, re-embarked those pax previously offloaded then went about its business normally... if a little behind schedule.
Sorry a bit of thread drift...
Does anyone know what the normal Flybe diversions are for AGP? I would hazard a guess at GRX or SVQ.
As I live in Granada / Portsmouth about 20 minutes drive from GRX and / or SOU, for purely selfish reasons, I would much rather see Granada as the normal destination rather than AGP.
GRX is much more user friendly than AGP too, as is SOU over LGW.
Pax load factors (and most of the pax were from Hampshire) for Monarch on its LGW-GRX-LGW service were always of the order 90 -100% with an A320 until they were bullied out by a certain Irishman's blackmailing tactics with the local and regional authorities. His promises of increased revenues lasted for just three years until he pulled the plug... GRX is almost deserted these days!
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Flybe to launch SOU-BCN 3 weekly from 31st March 2013. Will operate Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday on an E195. Looks like we'll almost certainly be saying goodbye to Vueling then but at least the BCN route will be retained for next year.
After the coming weekend, are the Clermont-Ferrand and Inverness routes gone for good, or will they come back next summer ?
Yes, I am capable of looking at the flybe website, but on the CFE route the website seems inconsistent as to whether it will or won't be flown
Yes, I am capable of looking at the flybe website, but on the CFE route the website seems inconsistent as to whether it will or won't be flown
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