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Perhaps it`s not going to be as busy as people think
BBC News - London 2012: Thousands of hotel nights made available
I booked rooms in Luton at normal hotel tariff over the opening days also
Ian B
BBC News - London 2012: Thousands of hotel nights made available
I booked rooms in Luton at normal hotel tariff over the opening days also
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radar 707
Yes - Thanks for the clarification. I should have checked before posting. The RYR units should be active by then. I suppose that it might be possible to marshal Exec Aircraft in bulk onto remote stands sujject to Airport Authority & CAA aproval. [NB not the old side. those freighters etc].-
I'm old enough to remember BEA Tridents lined up along the old 06/24 after divertions in the 70's
As I have said earlier - I'm no expert - I bet a more informed source will correct me.
It may depend on customer demand vis cost of implimentation who knows.
Apologies CAT III
[Edit; Just thinking - You can imagine the senario: "Our client wants his GV back urgently". response "Sorry its on temp plot 13 - Come back in two weeks" - This headache would apply anywhere? ]
I'm old enough to remember BEA Tridents lined up along the old 06/24 after divertions in the 70's
As I have said earlier - I'm no expert - I bet a more informed source will correct me.
It may depend on customer demand vis cost of implimentation who knows.
Apologies CAT III
[Edit; Just thinking - You can imagine the senario: "Our client wants his GV back urgently". response "Sorry its on temp plot 13 - Come back in two weeks" - This headache would apply anywhere? ]
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Brussels Airlines flight frequency mystery solved
Just for info:
SN will indeed continue with 5 rotations on weekdays. Two of these are to be operated by the Austrian Arrows DHC-8 and is cunningly hidden in the first (default) flight option page unless one ticks the "flights operated by partner airlines" box.
SN will indeed continue with 5 rotations on weekdays. Two of these are to be operated by the Austrian Arrows DHC-8 and is cunningly hidden in the first (default) flight option page unless one ticks the "flights operated by partner airlines" box.
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Cloud1
The Q400 has operated every Sunday for quite a while on SN2045 and
during holiday periods, also the SN2039/40 so it is not a surprise that there
are two scheduled every weekday this summer but are you saying that it
is changing to flybe? GDS still shows Tyrolean.
If flybe were to take some of the services I would have expected the
BHX night-stop to be the first to eliminate the hotel costs.
Swiss
About mid April just after Easter it seems to settle down to 2 x RJ100's
and just the morning flight is now the F100. Although it seems to be
changing a lot recently especially with UK services, Manchester for
a start showing mainly 319's rather 320's for the summer.
Pete
The Q400 has operated every Sunday for quite a while on SN2045 and
during holiday periods, also the SN2039/40 so it is not a surprise that there
are two scheduled every weekday this summer but are you saying that it
is changing to flybe? GDS still shows Tyrolean.
If flybe were to take some of the services I would have expected the
BHX night-stop to be the first to eliminate the hotel costs.
Swiss
About mid April just after Easter it seems to settle down to 2 x RJ100's
and just the morning flight is now the F100. Although it seems to be
changing a lot recently especially with UK services, Manchester for
a start showing mainly 319's rather 320's for the summer.
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Olympic Games
Sam1993
With both the United States and the Jamaican teams training in Birmingham prior to the games is it to be assumed that both of these teams will fly direct into BHX? Thereafter, and particularly with the vast US team there would of necessity then be other flights containing equipment, families, personnel etc. There could be some interesting movements....
OP
Have you crystal ball-gazed at what impact the expanded route structure (Baby, LH, Mon etc) this year from BHX might have on annual pax numbers. Might we get back to a pre-2010 level?
Sam1993
With both the United States and the Jamaican teams training in Birmingham prior to the games is it to be assumed that both of these teams will fly direct into BHX? Thereafter, and particularly with the vast US team there would of necessity then be other flights containing equipment, families, personnel etc. There could be some interesting movements....
OP
Have you crystal ball-gazed at what impact the expanded route structure (Baby, LH, Mon etc) this year from BHX might have on annual pax numbers. Might we get back to a pre-2010 level?
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On the subject of aircraft type changes, Britair by Air France will continue to operate into BHX after the ending of the Lyon route with CRJs on some of the CDG rotations.
This begins towards the end of March.
This begins towards the end of March.
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2012
Monty Gordo
I have not crunched any numbers like I used to do in the past but using the known increases in the based aircraft of two x ZB A320's and one x Baby 737 based on load factors of 80% and 75% respectively then it should fall short of 2009 (9.1 Million) but well above 2010 and 2011 at about 8.95 - 9 Million.
Also a lot will depend on winter 2012 and what further IT's are consolidated this summer. It appears Aer Lingus regional will be increasing as well as TK of course with Lyon the only major loss at present 2500-3500 pax per month.
ticketondeparture
Yes unfortunately they will be using the CRJ1000 on the AF1564/5 in place of the A318, which is often upgraded to the A320. Certainly disappointing that this flight was chosen as the downgrade even if it is only a handful of seats.
I suppose with the latest AF financials a loss of less than 50 seats a day is small and it could have been worse. At least the RJ85's are a distant memory.
Pete
I have not crunched any numbers like I used to do in the past but using the known increases in the based aircraft of two x ZB A320's and one x Baby 737 based on load factors of 80% and 75% respectively then it should fall short of 2009 (9.1 Million) but well above 2010 and 2011 at about 8.95 - 9 Million.
Also a lot will depend on winter 2012 and what further IT's are consolidated this summer. It appears Aer Lingus regional will be increasing as well as TK of course with Lyon the only major loss at present 2500-3500 pax per month.
ticketondeparture
Yes unfortunately they will be using the CRJ1000 on the AF1564/5 in place of the A318, which is often upgraded to the A320. Certainly disappointing that this flight was chosen as the downgrade even if it is only a handful of seats.
I suppose with the latest AF financials a loss of less than 50 seats a day is small and it could have been worse. At least the RJ85's are a distant memory.
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Monty Gordo re Olympics.
Would certainly be good to see flights direct from the States and Jamaica.
However both countries have sent athletic teams before to a full programme of events at Birminghams Alexander stadium and there were no flights then.
They arrived on numerous sched flights into LHR and BHX .
I do fear the Olmpics could be another damp squib for BHX like Rotary International was..really hoping Im wrong
Nigel
Would certainly be good to see flights direct from the States and Jamaica.
However both countries have sent athletic teams before to a full programme of events at Birminghams Alexander stadium and there were no flights then.
They arrived on numerous sched flights into LHR and BHX .
I do fear the Olmpics could be another damp squib for BHX like Rotary International was..really hoping Im wrong
Nigel
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I thought that one of the reasons London got the olympics was it's "green credentials".
How green is it to fly Mr & Mrs Nob / Celeb to LTN, the get the aircraft back in the air to park at BHX.
For heavens sake, given the third world infrastructure that is the UK motorway system, surely the assembled ranks of nobs and celebs would be better served taking a first class train ticket from BHX to Stratford, rather than a limo from Luton! Given they can afford the private aircraft, even at UK fares levels, a first class train ticket should just about be affordable!!!
If all BHX is going to be is a glorified car park for Citations etc, then why bother with those pesky rings, that I assume LOCOG aren't paying for to be stuck on the new tower.
I thought that one of the reasons London got the olympics was it's "green credentials".
How green is it to fly Mr & Mrs Nob / Celeb to LTN, the get the aircraft back in the air to park at BHX.
For heavens sake, given the third world infrastructure that is the UK motorway system, surely the assembled ranks of nobs and celebs would be better served taking a first class train ticket from BHX to Stratford, rather than a limo from Luton! Given they can afford the private aircraft, even at UK fares levels, a first class train ticket should just about be affordable!!!
If all BHX is going to be is a glorified car park for Citations etc, then why bother with those pesky rings, that I assume LOCOG aren't paying for to be stuck on the new tower.
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Press release today from the airport about daily flights to Istanbul and also seems they have made some investment in significant advertisement around the arrivals hall area
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Looks like there is a major reduction in flights for Olympic Holidays this summer with only 5 weekly departures currently being offered, down from 13 last summer!! Perhaps the dreadful operation by Sky Wings last summer has put people off?
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Olympic Holidays
sam1993
The May/June schedule is not too dissimilar to 2011 as Sky Wings only operated seven flights but it is the July/August schedule that has been chopped.
I can only find the Sunday evening Zante starting unless I have missed any.
I bet they wished they had gone with Czech Travel Service last summer, which briefly appeared in their 2011 online brochure.
Pete
The May/June schedule is not too dissimilar to 2011 as Sky Wings only operated seven flights but it is the July/August schedule that has been chopped.
I can only find the Sunday evening Zante starting unless I have missed any.
I bet they wished they had gone with Czech Travel Service last summer, which briefly appeared in their 2011 online brochure.
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I would imagine that dreadful perfomance by Sky Wings has put hundreds if not more people off with travelling with Olympic Holidays! Hurrendous delays and even poorer information between both companies!!! I would imagine Olympic wish they had never fallen out of bed with Monarch who supplied them with reliable flights!!! I have heard this saying on here before and if it was a consumer price thing that led Olympic to use Sky Wings last year its quite sad - "People know the cost of everything, and the "Value" of nothing!!!..............and its very true!!!
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A bit on common sense..
Chamber calls for investment in Birmingham Airport instead of 'Boris Island' - Latest Business News - Business News - Business - Birmingham Post
The amount of money to create a new airport buys and awful lot of Marketing..
But God forbid money is spent outside the South East..
Adie
Chamber calls for investment in Birmingham Airport instead of 'Boris Island' - Latest Business News - Business News - Business - Birmingham Post
The amount of money to create a new airport buys and awful lot of Marketing..
But God forbid money is spent outside the South East..
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Cork
Looks as if EI Regional is nothing but good news for BHX.
Shannon is still only showing daily but Cork has trumped it by going
three daily on Monday, Wednesday and Friday from 2/5/2012.
Revised times allowing both Irish and now Midlander's to do a days business
if they so wish.
BHX times 08.15/08.45, 12.30/13.00 and 20.45/21.15
Apparently not in the timetable yet but bookable.
Pete
Shannon is still only showing daily but Cork has trumped it by going
three daily on Monday, Wednesday and Friday from 2/5/2012.
Revised times allowing both Irish and now Midlander's to do a days business
if they so wish.
BHX times 08.15/08.45, 12.30/13.00 and 20.45/21.15
Apparently not in the timetable yet but bookable.
Pete
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2012
So for 2012 continued
Aer Lingus - Dublin one more rotation per week to 20 and Cork 3 more rotations to 17
Ryanair adding Budapest at 2 times weekly
Flybe adding Waterford, 1 Daily
Route development for 2012 looking a lot better then that for 2011
Aer Lingus - Dublin one more rotation per week to 20 and Cork 3 more rotations to 17
Ryanair adding Budapest at 2 times weekly
Flybe adding Waterford, 1 Daily
Route development for 2012 looking a lot better then that for 2011