Aer Lingus - 6

[Aerlingus231]

They're starting in March, that much I know, so I'd be expecting them in in the next couple weeks to get painted out before entry into service, the previous two were in storage in Dublin for 6 months before they started operations, these two obviously won't be delivered as far in advance. Just wondering if anyone exactly knows when we'll get to see them first arrive?

[PPRuNe Pop]

Matter as reported now dealt with. Thanks. Keep Calm and Carry on!

[Hangar6]

Aer Lingu share price .....interesting

Thanks Mod for your action...

Now , at 124 today the EI share price is moving up towards FR bid offer of 130

With a noted jump over the last week of 12%
Not too exciting but it makes me wonder what is happening

ROI GVT wont sell to FR but their share holding is up for grabs and they have been out thought by MOL before as we know
Etihad are looking to buy shares
MOL awaits the final word on his bid from EU
UK regulater is still mulling the FR shareholding
2012 was a great year for EI given the climate and 2013 looking even better
Pension issue possibly resolved ....possibly

So why the big share movement this week?

Now I am a capitalist so share prices I know are decided by a bunch of suited gamblers, usual in garish pinstrips and these gents and maybe the odd lady react to rumours innuendo and titbits of news to buy or sell shares

I wonder what is driving the price this week ?
Market forces are a mystery to me , but what is the market thinking ?

any views

[Sober Lark]

.....interesting

Just optomistic forecasts for second half of year.

[MCDU2]

There are so few shares in free float that any moderate level of trading tends to have a significant impact on price. What with EY, FR, govt, O'Brien, Tailwind plus any that the esot still might have there is only a small percentage out there for free trade.

That would be my take.

[dublinaviator]

According to the Sunday Business Post, 1.2 million shares changed hands at 10:45 this morning:

The Sunday Business Post

Share price is now hovering around €1.23, edging closer to Ryanair's offer of €1.30. Something is definitely going on behind the scenes, and if I had to guess I'd say Etihad are increasing their shareholding.

[Stevek]

SHARES in Aer Lingus rose sharply this morning on heavy trading amid speculation that Ryanair will make more concessions in its quest to takeover the airline.

Shares in Aer Lingus rise sharply as Ryanair willing to submit more concessions - Irish, Business - Independent.ie

[Aerlingus231]

Not sure if this is good or bad news, If Etihad Is growing it's stake and driving demand up, then good, but if the Ryanair bid is gaining the opinion that it could go through this is very very bad news for everyone.

If the price went above €1.30, would this effectively rule out the Ryanair bid, possibly lead to them selling or what? Was this their goal to begin with, get the price to go up so they could cut their losses?

[Sober Lark]

Do you really think Shamrock grows that well in the desert?

[Hangar6]

Share price

Somewhat ironic if FR offer lapses as share price goes over 130 .....still a wee further upswing in price and even my wee holding gets into the black, happy days ,

If EU gives go ahead , share price sitting at 133 , ROI GVT holding not in play for FR along with Etihad's holding, what's the point for MOL ?other than he gets to make less of a horrendous loss on his original investment ...

[racedo]

Somewhat ironic if FR offer lapses as share price goes over 130 .....still a wee further upswing in price and even my wee holding gets into the black, happy days ,

If EU gives go ahead , share price sitting at 133 , ROI GVT holding not in play for FR along with Etihad's holding, what's the point for MOL ?other than he gets to make less of a horrendous loss on his original investment ...

What Ryanair offer ?

There isn't one on the table.

[TRY2FLY]

http://www.thejournal.ie/aer-lingus-emergency-landing-756450-Jan2013/

[Meccano]

Thanks Mod for your action...

Now , at 124 today the EI share price is moving up towards FR bid offer of 130

With a noted jump over the last week of 12%
Not too exciting but it makes me wonder what is happening

ROI GVT wont sell to FR but their share holding is up for grabs and they have been out thought by MOL before as we know
Etihad are looking to buy shares
MOL awaits the final word on his bid from EU
UK regulater is still mulling the FR shareholding
2012 was a great year for EI given the climate and 2013 looking even better
Pension issue possibly resolved ....possibly

So why the big share movement this week?

Now I am a capitalist so share prices I know are decided by a bunch of suited gamblers, usual in garish pinstrips and these gents and maybe the odd lady react to rumours innuendo and titbits of news to buy or sell shares

I wonder what is driving the price this week ?
Market forces are a mystery to me , but what is the market thinking ?

any views

My view is that O'Leary is putting it out that he'll be increasing his bid offer price.
Like I said - 6.50 or no deal.
C'mon Micko, you want? Ready up!

[Bearcat]

Is Michael not constrained under a time frame from upping his bid? If not he could blow the thing out of the water with a size able increase in his bid backed by his new best buddy in Willie walsh and IAG. Interesting times.

[Cian]

He can't bid at all for a period - he withdrew his bid and is barred under (Irish, to emphasise after I got jumped on before) Takeover Panel rules from bidding again yet.

[peacock1]

How long is ducksie barred for ?

[Bearcat]

Jeez haven't heard the "ducksie" nickname in yonks.....for all those not in the know, M O'Ls nickname from his old alma mater.

[fraggleoc]

Investigation extension?

Aer Lingus has said that the European Commission’s investigation into Ryanair’s bid for the airline may be subject to a short extension to facilitate a “renewed round of market testing”.
The Sunday Business Post

[racedo]

No need for market testing if a decision already decided on, either way.

Handing over routes and returning to them in 3 years time, if a desire was there to do so, is I believe is perfectly acceptable.

There can not be a clause never to return as that would be legally unenforceable long term.

[racedo]

Racedo, can you explain to the Irish consumer how giving away 43 routes to a loss making regional carrier with non Irish connections is good for the consumer?

You want competition but now because its "non Irish" are you suggesting its somehow not good for the consumer.

As for loss making....................given Aer Lingus losses over last 5 years I don't think that can be used as a prerequisite as to who can fly the route.

And how giving away the London routes to an airline whose only interest is to shut the route and use the slots elsewhere?
I accept that for Ryanair it's an exceptionally good deal, particularly as you agree that after 3 years Ryanair would return and run the others off the route to create a monopoly. No question, win win for Ryanair. But the consumer would end up the loser, of that I think we can also agree.

BA have more than enough slots are LHR and why shut a route which makes money ? or are you suggesting that LHR routes loses money from Ireland ?

As for anything Ryanair would do then that is up to Ryanair board at that point in time.

3 years is a long time in Aviation and anything can occur in that time.