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Aer Lingus has confirmed its intrest in the opening of such routes.
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Errm yes they are? Aer Lingus has confirmed its intrest in the opening of such routes.
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Originally Posted by Jack1985
Yes I did. Aer Lingus has confirmed its plans to launch Intra-UK routes subject to it winning slots - so the plans to launch such routes are confirmed.
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Management has said they will open new routes to North America and Europe in 2013, Aer Lingus paticularly intrested in the US East Coast and Canada.
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Aer Lingus has confirmed its plans to launch Intra-UK routes subject to it winning slots
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Echo
This is a little like basing aircraft at Gatwick (i.e. mental) unless BA are code-sharing.
I'd say this is part of a wider strategy by Etihad on gaining a greater foothold in Europe. The first part of this strategy was acquiring 30% of Air Berlin, allowing them to better compete against Emirates in the German market. By acquiring part of Aer Lingus and developing a code share deal with them, they can use them as a way of increasing its foothold in the UK to better compete against Emirates and Qatar Airways there.
So Aer Lingus launching these new intra-UK routes would just be part of that. If Etihad code share with Aer Lingus on those routes and its wider Ireland-UK network, it'll provide additional feed to their hub in Abu Dhabi.
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Management has said they will open new routes to North America and Europe in 2013, Aer Lingus paticularly intrested in the US East Coast and Canada.
Where did they say this? I read that they are encourages by the Atkantic routes and examining adding capacity.
That could mean adding frequency to ORD for example. Nowhere does it state they're looking at Canada/East Coast.
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Errm yes they are? Aer Lingus has confirmed its intrest in the opening of such routes.
Confirming interest and confirming and are very different. EI has confirmed interest in bases across Europe amongst other things. It is all very conditional and quite unlikely
Management has said they will open new routes to North America and Europe in 2013, Aer Lingus paticularly intrested in the US East Coast and Canada.
Where did they say this? I read that they are encourages by the Atkantic routes and examining adding capacity.
That could mean adding frequency to ORD for example. Nowhere does it state they're looking at Canada/East Coast.
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Errm yes they are? Aer Lingus has confirmed its intrest in the opening of such routes.
Confirming interest and confirming and are very different. EI has confirmed interest in bases across Europe amongst other things. It is all very conditional and quite unlikely
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Originally Posted by johnrizzo2000
Where did they say this? I read that they are encourages by the Atkantic routes and examining adding capacity.
That could mean adding frequency to ORD for example. Nowhere does it state they're looking at Canada/East Coast.
That could mean adding frequency to ORD for example. Nowhere does it state they're looking at Canada/East Coast.
Just skip to 13:45.
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It was featured on the RTÉ News at One today. They don't have the clip on
their website yet, but you can watch the full programme on RTÉ Player here: RTÉ Player: Catch up
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Just skip to 13:45.
I noticed that they also said that they were ''Interested'' in UK domestic routes, which is hardly a firm commitement.
Any new T/A route will require the IAD aircraft to return to Ireland, or frequency reductions on existing routes. Any new European routes, or UK domestic routes, would require additional 319/320's
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Any new T/A route will require the IAD aircraft to return to Ireland, or frequency reductions on existing routes. Any new European routes, or UK domestic routes, would require additional 319/320's
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EI/UA contract is up in March 2013 and its unlightly to be extended. 2 more
A319 will arrive.
A319 will arrive.
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EI/UA contract is up in March 2013 and its unlikely to be extended.
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Why the assumption that the IAD aircraft will provide the extra capacity to the East Coast and/or Canada? As far as I understand its making money so there is no reason to cancel the deal unless United/Continental pull the pin when the expiry comes up next March.
Getting hands on aircraft will not be a factor in what happens.
Getting hands on aircraft will not be a factor in what happens.
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By acquiring part of Aer Lingus and developing a code share deal with them, they can use them as a way of increasing its foothold in the UK to better compete against Emirates and Qatar Airways there.
Emirates would be much more competitive from these airports than say ABZ-LHR-AUH-XYZ. The whole selling point of these guys is avoid the LHR experience. I cannot see Aer Lingus making money on UK domestic, even Ryanair gave up. From LHR, you're looking at ABZ / GLA / EDI / MAN / NCL realistically and NCL and MAN only have LHR links to feed BA, they would be loss makers on point to point. Feeding other airlines at LHR killed BMI in one sense as well, so I struggle to see what the logic or strategy would be.
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In the event that EI start YYZ, I think they should look at a WestJet tie up which would be similar to their Jetblue arrangement. Avoidance of the grief of transiting through the US causes will offset the higher fares caused by the costs of serving one of the most expensive airports for landing fees in North America (because of the ground rents extracted by the government of Canada)
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aren't United renting slots from Aer Lingus at Heathrow at the moment
Doing a 'land grab' on possible LHR slots coming out of the BD-BA merger is just about the only way EI is going to be able to retain flexibility to maintain/grow its LHR operations going forward without shelling out significant amounts of money to buy slots.
Remember they would only have to operate EDI/ABZ etc for 3 years (not an insignificant amount of time, I appreciate) before the slots become theirs to do with exactly as they wise (ie. use for other routes if desired).
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And aren't United renting slots from Aer Lingus at Heathrow at the moment.
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April passenger up 2.3% to 890,000
Short Haul 732,000 up 0.7% - LF 71.4% up 1.4
Long Haul 79,000 up 8.2% - LF 75.6% up 5.1
EI regional 79,000 up 27.4%
SH capacity down 1.1% (BFS base reduction and LGW base)
LH capacity level on 2011
Short Haul 732,000 up 0.7% - LF 71.4% up 1.4
Long Haul 79,000 up 8.2% - LF 75.6% up 5.1
EI regional 79,000 up 27.4%
SH capacity down 1.1% (BFS base reduction and LGW base)
LH capacity level on 2011