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Old 26th Apr 2013, 11:13
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I wonder what might happen now IAG is going to be Vueling's holding company........

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Old 26th Apr 2013, 16:16
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Long Haul

Be good to see the return of some long haul destinations....... A few years back Monarch, Thomson, XL and Zoom had a good selection of flights to Orlando, Toronto & Vancouver. Lets sort the Tax out and get them in. Should also chase Eastern Airways to start Aberdeen via Leeds as they did in Bristol before they left......this may work for T3 with no competition
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Old 26th Apr 2013, 17:16
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It will be a very long time until APD is devolved to the Welsh Government if indeed it ever does especially as it was voted against in Westminster a week or two ago.

As of Eastern Airwyas they already operate Aberdeen via Newcastle and i'm unsure if there is demand to increase this offering. I believe I read somewhere that the Leeds Bradford figures have been dropping for several years.

As for Air Canada Rouge they are a possible target to go after and no doubt they have been on the radar of Spencer Birns for some time. It was just this week that a Dublin was announced.

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Old 26th Apr 2013, 18:09
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Air Canada Rouge

Yeah they are going year round to DUB plus also during summer to EDI, only got 2 B767-300's at the moment for transatlantic flights but aim to increase. CWL be a good choice for them !
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Old 27th Apr 2013, 14:49
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CWL long haul

I see on the BRS thread that TOM have dropped their BRS long haul flights to CUN & SFB from Summer 2014........does this mean a return could be in the pipeline for CWL ???? Big enough runway at CWL......be good if this true, fingers crossed.
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Old 28th Apr 2013, 04:58
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I doubt it at the moment. Just looking at Summer 14 and TOM have dropped a few destinations from CWL too. AYT has gone NBE is no longer offered to name a few.

Although looking at the Thomas Cook departures SFB is showing as a Sat departure. Not gone through to see if this is a regular flight or just one off.

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Old 28th Apr 2013, 08:56
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There is a one-off departure some time in march i think, do you have the link ?
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Old 28th Apr 2013, 20:41
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Does anyone know if BA's 787s will be delivered at CWL for final testing, just like the 77Ws, before heading onwards to LHR for service?
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Old 28th Apr 2013, 21:35
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Suggestion elsewhere is that the 787s will go PAE-LHR

The 77W were delivered to BA at CWL due to Boeing not fitting the CW cabins prior to delivery, off the top of my head the 77W had wt, wt+ & F installed before delivery but BA added the CW cabin and maybe the overhead crew rest area, but the final point I'm not sure of.


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Old 28th Apr 2013, 22:26
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I was kind of hoping, for at least maintenance, I'd get to see the 787 at CWL. CWL is BA's main long haul aircraft maintenance base right?
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Old 28th Apr 2013, 22:43
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I suppose it depends on how much Mr Boeing charges to fit out the cabins! could the A380s and A350s also follow to CWL for final fitting?
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Old 29th Apr 2013, 07:48
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I'm pretty sure BA has built the A380 its own hanger. So we probably will not see the A380 at CWL. But there's no reason why we wouldn't see the 787 or the A350. I'm hoping
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Old 29th Apr 2013, 10:04
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787s are replacing the 763s so I would guess they would head to CWL for mx.


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Old 29th Apr 2013, 22:18
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British Airways Maintenance Cardiff usually deals with heavy maintenance on all the BA longhaul fleet including the installing of new cabin interriors and in-flight entertainment.

I believe the hangar at Heathrow have been modified to accomodate the A380 which of course may bee required for light maintenance etc. In the long-term there hasn't been anything solid to say that major checks which will be required a few years downline may not be completed at Cardiff. CWL will also remain an alternate so it is a possible for diversionary reasons.

There's several rumours that the B787 will be maintained at Cardiff and also not certain at the moment if the aircraft will be delivered to Cardiff and have the final cabin interior added as have been done with the B773.

A350 as another longhaul aircraft intending to replace the B747 it would make sense if heavy maintenance was performed at Cardiff as there will be room available.

BA shorthaul fleet. There has been talks of the shorthaul fleet moving to South Wales from Glasgow and likely to be in the superhangar at St Athan but with the MoD not intending to hand the hangar to the Welsh Government until 2017 then not sure if this has been cancelled.

Lots of rumours at the moment but very little facts regarding to future maintenance of BA aircraft.
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Old 2nd May 2013, 18:11
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It would be great to see a new airline announced sometime soon, it will be a morale booster !!! New airline & new destination.....I wonder what / who would be on the wish list ?

Any suggestions or thoughts ??

Wizz, Delta ........

ORK, BRU, VCE, NCE ??
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Old 2nd May 2013, 20:36
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Brussels is a route that doesn't seem to work at Cardiff I know in the last 7-8 years it was tried and failed by both Eastern Airways and Air Wales.

Cork as a leisure route always seemed to attract bums on seats but the yield couldn't have been there with Aer Lingus Regional / Aer Arann as it was dropped. An ATR / Dash8 is a perfect aircraft size for the route and certainly since the Swansea - Cork ferry no longer operates it should be a no brainer. I wonder if Citywing could ever be persuaded to operate it in between the Anglesey rotations.

Venice and Nice may work as a leisure destination but not sure if it would be large enough to operate a weekly service in the Summer. I wonder if Newmarket Holidays will continue to grow the Venice offering in 2014.

We also need to look at Atlantic Holidays Funchal charters who will operate two this year and may further increase them in the future.

I certainly think Faro in Portugal is a no brainer for a destination to be added at some point on a higher frequency than the current 1 x weekly charter by Thomson.

Winter sporting charters to Ski resorts should also make a comeback soon as there's a large void left since the 3 x weekly bmibay to Geneva and the 1 x weekly to Innsbruck & Chambery by Thomson.

I do believe that the airport will be doing what they can to link to another hub for connections preferably in Germany I would imagine.

A major positive sign would be return to

4 x daily Amsterdam (Currently 3 x daily)
3 x daily Dublin (Currently 2 x daily, 3 x daily Th,Fri,Su)
2 x daily Belfast City (Currently 2 x daily)
2 x daily Paris CDG (Currently 1 x daily)

Several opportunities for Vueling who are pleased from the support they have from Cardiff Airport and their friends.

Mahon, Ibiza, Faro (However they tend to operate to Lisbon) there may also be increases on their current routes. I fear Barcelona may be removed but we will have to see. There's also a market to keep Alicante and Malaga year round.

Could there be a market for Pegasus to operate from Cardiff to Turkey.
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Old 2nd May 2013, 20:56
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Totally agree, ORK always had good loads with Air Wales as did their DUB flights. Wish they were still around as with proper guidance & management they would have been great. Look at the old days when BA Express had all those flights & destinations with their EM4 and J41's. CWL needs another airline like that with 29 to 48 seat aircraft. I remember flying to CDG on numerous J41's which were always full !!

J41 sized aircraft be ideal for CDG, IOM, GCI, JER, ORK, DUB & similar places. Further afield, lets hope Vueling get persuaded to do flights to TFS, ACE & LPA -a definately market on top of their current destinations.

With regards to Atlantic Holidays, fingers crossed but they used to do a weekly a few years back initially split with BOH using Air Luxor A320 then direct with Astraeus 737's so obviously quite a popular choice.

Only time will tell eh !
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Old 2nd May 2013, 23:13
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I had the pleasure of having discussion with the International Sales Manager and Network Planner of Vueling recently and it seems that the Canaries do not fit in with their operation style due to the sector length. They only tend to operate the long sectors from their main base at Barcelona.

Of course these operation styles alter and you never know in the future this stance may change. Also at present Vueling do not fly to TFS they have a base in TFN which is not ideal for leisure traffic.
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Old 3rd May 2013, 07:29
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cwl routes

lots of the routes suggested in the last few posts have been tried in some shape or form in the past. they did not work then and will not work now. no recession when lots of routes were tried. we are in a deep recession and wales hit very hard. not only that routes suggested are mainly done from brs on loco airlines.
airlines will go anywhere where there is money to be made. sad thing is that new routes would have to compete with established loco ops from brs. and as said recession does not help and will not help;so end of day lots of routes suggested from cwl are operated from brs.so new routes from cwl are going to be hard to get and run with a profit.airlines are in it to make money and not charities to run services to wherever at a loss.
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Old 3rd May 2013, 14:05
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An article based on the way forward for Cardiff Airport and a face to face interview which may be of interest.

Cardiff Airport CEO vows to stop the rot - Source-Airport World
Face to Face: Jon Hornel, Cardiff Airport - Source-Travel Daily UK
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