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April traffic up 11% (200,000), excellent considering March took lots of easter traffic. Brings a total increase of 870,000 passengers in 4 months. Well on the way to over 23 million, full year if traffic was to stay flat is over 22.5! Also think its the first time outside June-August to break 2 million!
Latest News > April Passenger Numbers Up 11% To 2 Million
Latest News > April Passenger Numbers Up 11% To 2 Million
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Other international traffic, predominantly to the Middle East, recorded a 23% increase, as almost 62,000 passengers travelled to and from these destinations in April
First time they have actually mentioned Middle East in a press release. Although from the wording N Africa, Egypt and Turkey etc. are probably still in the mix of figures.
If they can say UK traffic up 13% why can't they say Dubai traffic up / down x%, Abu Dhabi traffic up/ down x %? Is the information sensitive?
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Not sensitive info the CSO will have that. Believe Turkey is Europe. Most other airports on detail domestic/international numbers.
The 23% growth is around 14,500 and EK added around 20,000 over last year so safe to assume they were responsible for 99% if not all the growth.
The 23% growth is around 14,500 and EK added around 20,000 over last year so safe to assume they were responsible for 99% if not all the growth.
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Where is EKs dedicated lounge then?
From CSO most up to date figures for traffic to the Middle East 1. Emirates, 2. Etihad, 3 Turkish. Turkey is part in Europe and part in Asia. However, in terms of territory and land area it is among the larger countries of the Middle East. If the DAA states traffic to a particular region is 'up' x% then they have to be clearer. Previous press releases they issued included figures for the Middle East and Africa bunched together so no accuracy in their Statement.
Long may we continue to have 4 seats to get some shut eye
From CSO most up to date figures for traffic to the Middle East 1. Emirates, 2. Etihad, 3 Turkish. Turkey is part in Europe and part in Asia. However, in terms of territory and land area it is among the larger countries of the Middle East. If the DAA states traffic to a particular region is 'up' x% then they have to be clearer. Previous press releases they issued included figures for the Middle East and Africa bunched together so no accuracy in their Statement.
Long may we continue to have 4 seats to get some shut eye
First time they have actually mentioned Middle East in a press release. Although from the wording N Africa, Egypt and Turkey etc. are probably still in the mix of figures.
If they can say UK traffic up 13% why can't they say Dubai traffic up / down x%, Abu Dhabi traffic up/ down x %? Is the information sensitive?
If they can say UK traffic up 13% why can't they say Dubai traffic up / down x%, Abu Dhabi traffic up/ down x %? Is the information sensitive?
On routes where there are 2 carriers, they would be able to figure out the competition's loads too, and say "oh look, we're killing them, let's drop the prices a bit and make them give up" or "oh look, they're killing us, better fight back or give up"
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Yet we can have the CAA listing every route out of the UK so all and sundry can spot how airline X is doing on a YYY-ZZZ routing regarding passenger numbers.
Having that sole metric alone is not an indicator of how profitable the route is, though actions speak larger than words if you see an airline, particularly a low-cost one, pull a route.
Just look at the Manchester thread where you can typically see 4 airlines singled out as they are the sole operators on the long-haul route they operate on.
Having that sole metric alone is not an indicator of how profitable the route is, though actions speak larger than words if you see an airline, particularly a low-cost one, pull a route.
Just look at the Manchester thread where you can typically see 4 airlines singled out as they are the sole operators on the long-haul route they operate on.
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No strictly related but the US have asked The Netherlands to set up USPC at Amsterdam! Not going to be easy, interesting to see if they manage to pull it off years down the line.
The US wants to carry out passport checks at Schiphol - DutchNews.nl
The US wants to carry out passport checks at Schiphol - DutchNews.nl
EIEWR is due back to Dublin from Bordeaux on Wednesday after modifications.
It's due to operate the Orlando flight the same day, so hopefully and end to long haul hire ins at Dublin ,
It's due to operate the Orlando flight the same day, so hopefully and end to long haul hire ins at Dublin ,
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Thomson to fly long haul with B787 next sunmer!
Montego Bay begins 12 June and operates weekly for 6 weeks
Cancun begins 13 June and operate weeklu for 6 weeks
http://www.dublinairport.com/gns/at-...a_In_2016.aspx
Montego Bay begins 12 June and operates weekly for 6 weeks
Cancun begins 13 June and operate weeklu for 6 weeks
http://www.dublinairport.com/gns/at-...a_In_2016.aspx
A relatively tentative step but long overdue. Cancun in particular has been crying out for a service from DUB. IMO the only reason it's taken so long is because TOM, TCX and VIR are already getting the pax through MAN and LGW. Doubtless there'll be an expanded schedule in 2015.
15% increase in pax so far and they haven't even really hit the high season yet? Wow
15% increase in pax so far and they haven't even really hit the high season yet? Wow
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Winter 15/16
Aer Lingus announced an additional 275,000 seats over the coming winter season, first major growth in a long time!
IAD - 4 weekly up to 4 January (752)
ORD - 10 weekly (+3 and new 05.30 arrival daily) up to 4 January (330 - previously planned 752)
JFK - 5% growth between January-March
BOS - 19% growth between November/December/March
MCO/SFO - additional flights at Christmas, Mid Term and Easter
LPL - 16 weekly (320)
Also additions freq to Zurich, Geneva, Birmingham, Manchester and Amsterdam among others.
200/75 split Europe/T/A.
IAD - 4 weekly up to 4 January (752)
ORD - 10 weekly (+3 and new 05.30 arrival daily) up to 4 January (330 - previously planned 752)
JFK - 5% growth between January-March
BOS - 19% growth between November/December/March
MCO/SFO - additional flights at Christmas, Mid Term and Easter
LPL - 16 weekly (320)
Also additions freq to Zurich, Geneva, Birmingham, Manchester and Amsterdam among others.
200/75 split Europe/T/A.
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With so many extra flights (allegedly) to be generated by the takeover of EI by IAG it makes you wonder can DUB cope, especially at rush hours.
T2 is so full that EI has spread all the way to take over Pier 3 and also claimed some stands at Pier 2 for aircraft waiting to be towed. BA has been forced out of Pier 3 at least for its early morning flights. (on a side note, the flight calls at Pier 2 are sometimes being interrupted by EI calls looking for their missing passengers from 3. Do the people making these announcements even know they are being heard in Pier 2 and interrupting other airlines' calls in progress? In any event, if the missing are in Pier 2 they aren't going to make it as there's no way back from there).
Anyway, it's fascinating to watch the early morning movements and it's worth getting to the airport early to observe. Each of the two cul-de-sacs created by building T2 where it is have a fleet of aircraft trying to get out whilst another fleet are trying to get in. Standing in both their ways is the progression (procession?) of aircraft on their way to 28. On top of that, some T/A arrivals for T2, notably AA, are left waiting on mid-field taxiways for three quarters of an hour or so until, finally, they are accomodated and manage to slowly penetrate the defensive lines and reach their designated stands.
On three recent trips my departing flights took 40-45 mins from push back to line-up. That's some waste of fuel. Mind you, a friend of mine says that, at other times of the day, you might not see anything land or take off for 15 minutes or more - but he tends to exaggerate!!
Looking (admittedly from a distance) at the dimensions of the holding/taxiway area where the two FR mishaps occurred you'd be amazed that it happened only twice.
On the other hand, (fingers and toes crossed) the Security in T1 has improved beyond belief compared to what it was a couple of years ago. Over the Winter my maximum wait was no more than about 5/6 minutes and even now, as things hot up, it's no more than about 15 mins. It seems that, at long last, someone discovered that opening up more than a third of the channels makes things a lot better for passengers.
Up until the last couple of weeks the Passport Control was a disgrace but (same digits crossed) it, too, has recently been properly staffed for rush hour arrivals.
If Airport Shopping is your thing I expect you are in Heaven.
Shame that the airfield facilities appear to have been rather poorly designed.
T2 is so full that EI has spread all the way to take over Pier 3 and also claimed some stands at Pier 2 for aircraft waiting to be towed. BA has been forced out of Pier 3 at least for its early morning flights. (on a side note, the flight calls at Pier 2 are sometimes being interrupted by EI calls looking for their missing passengers from 3. Do the people making these announcements even know they are being heard in Pier 2 and interrupting other airlines' calls in progress? In any event, if the missing are in Pier 2 they aren't going to make it as there's no way back from there).
Anyway, it's fascinating to watch the early morning movements and it's worth getting to the airport early to observe. Each of the two cul-de-sacs created by building T2 where it is have a fleet of aircraft trying to get out whilst another fleet are trying to get in. Standing in both their ways is the progression (procession?) of aircraft on their way to 28. On top of that, some T/A arrivals for T2, notably AA, are left waiting on mid-field taxiways for three quarters of an hour or so until, finally, they are accomodated and manage to slowly penetrate the defensive lines and reach their designated stands.
On three recent trips my departing flights took 40-45 mins from push back to line-up. That's some waste of fuel. Mind you, a friend of mine says that, at other times of the day, you might not see anything land or take off for 15 minutes or more - but he tends to exaggerate!!
Looking (admittedly from a distance) at the dimensions of the holding/taxiway area where the two FR mishaps occurred you'd be amazed that it happened only twice.
On the other hand, (fingers and toes crossed) the Security in T1 has improved beyond belief compared to what it was a couple of years ago. Over the Winter my maximum wait was no more than about 5/6 minutes and even now, as things hot up, it's no more than about 15 mins. It seems that, at long last, someone discovered that opening up more than a third of the channels makes things a lot better for passengers.
Up until the last couple of weeks the Passport Control was a disgrace but (same digits crossed) it, too, has recently been properly staffed for rush hour arrivals.
If Airport Shopping is your thing I expect you are in Heaven.
Shame that the airfield facilities appear to have been rather poorly designed.
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notably AA, are left waiting on mid-field taxiways for three quarters of an hour or so until, finally, they are accomodated and manage to slowly penetrate the defensive lines and reach their designated stands.
So far this year T/A OTP is doing rather well, congestion in terms or stands/passenger screening has being addressed well with flights departing on time. Big improvement on recent years. No big issues and we are in peak season with only UA 2 daily to come which will slot in fine and EI morning departure.
Not a lot can be done when the runway is at capacity at peak hours....give Natts a call and get them to take more traffic
On three recent trips my departing flights took 40-45 mins from push back to line-up. That's some waste of fuel.
Up until the last couple of weeks the Passport Control was a disgrace but (same digits crossed) it, too, has recently been properly staffed for rush hour arrivals.
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As a result of the 2 Ryanair collisions, Taxiway A is no longer available for departures off 34 during duel runway ops, despite no other carrier having had issues. All departures for 34 now have to taxi onto 28 and line up on 34, this has reduced options for the Surface Movements and Air Movements controllers in the tower.
The layout of Dublin is a joke. 4 cul de sacs, even at the back of pier D. They need to get on and build 28R/34L and immediately close the current runway and rip up and re-design the taxiway layout around the thresholds of 28/34
Surface movements in Dublin in the mornings is one of the most stressful jobs in the country.
The layout of Dublin is a joke. 4 cul de sacs, even at the back of pier D. They need to get on and build 28R/34L and immediately close the current runway and rip up and re-design the taxiway layout around the thresholds of 28/34
Surface movements in Dublin in the mornings is one of the most stressful jobs in the country.
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You know that's not the daa's problem but they have been working on it!
Not a lot can be done when the runway is at capacity at peak hours....give Natts a call and get them to take more traffic
With the recession (allegedly) on the way out the airfield congestion is bound to get a lot worse and I haven't seen any reports/evidence that anything is being done about it.
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NATS has nothing to do with airfield taxiways and locations of buildings. When the decision makers were pondering where to build T2 they don't seem to have foreseen or taken into consideration what effects the final choice would have on ground ops or what else they needed to do on the airfield to make things work once that decision had been made. They were either clueless in this regard or didn't care, take your pick.
With the recession (allegedly) on the way out the airfield congestion is bound to get a lot worse and I haven't seen any reports/evidence that anything is being done about it.
With the recession (allegedly) on the way out the airfield congestion is bound to get a lot worse and I haven't seen any reports/evidence that anything is being done about it.
New line up will happen when 37 p/h departures are triggered, otherwise not going to. Currently at 33 and Nats have to allow extra flights to increase capacity. Regulators decision not the daa.
Aer Lingus and Ryanair are happy for slots to be directed to more off peak times for services......
Perhaps have a read of the regulators reports!
As a result of the 2 Ryanair collisions, Taxiway A is no longer available for departures off 34 during duel runway ops, despite no other carrier having had issues. All departures for 34 now have to taxi onto 28 and line up on 34, this has reduced options for the Surface Movements and Air Movements controllers in the tower.
The layout of Dublin is a joke. 4 cul de sacs, even at the back of pier D. They need to get on and build 28R/34L and immediately close the current runway and rip up and re-design the taxiway layout around the thresholds of 28/34
Surface movements in Dublin in the mornings is one of the most stressful jobs in the country.
The layout of Dublin is a joke. 4 cul de sacs, even at the back of pier D. They need to get on and build 28R/34L and immediately close the current runway and rip up and re-design the taxiway layout around the thresholds of 28/34
Surface movements in Dublin in the mornings is one of the most stressful jobs in the country.