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OMG some stories just wont do the decent thing and die a slow dignified death!!! Its that old AI story yet again!! See last line of story!!! Does that mix STILL include DUB?
Birmingham Airport boss Paul Kehoe has said that he is hopeful that direct flights between Birmingham and India will be resurrected this year, the Birmingham Mail reports. Thousands of passengers who used the route between the city and Amritsar to visit friends and family were left disappointed when Air India scrapped the link in 2008.
Other airlines have introduced flights that connect to India via Vienna, Dubai and Turkmenistan, but Mr Kehoe said talks are ongoing to bring the direct connection back. He said the airport is among the contenders to become Air India’s new hub for European flights. A decision is expected later this year.
He told the newspaper: ‘We have been speaking to the airline through our worst recession and that is encouraging. The flights to Amritsar stopped on the day I joined the airport because Air India was keen to protect its flight slots at Heathrow – it was not due to demand. I am keen to bring them back and I think a lot of people in Birmingham and places like Leicester would be very pleased. Air India is keen to move its European hub and we are in the mix to pick that up.'
Birmingham Airport boss Paul Kehoe has said that he is hopeful that direct flights between Birmingham and India will be resurrected this year, the Birmingham Mail reports. Thousands of passengers who used the route between the city and Amritsar to visit friends and family were left disappointed when Air India scrapped the link in 2008.
Other airlines have introduced flights that connect to India via Vienna, Dubai and Turkmenistan, but Mr Kehoe said talks are ongoing to bring the direct connection back. He said the airport is among the contenders to become Air India’s new hub for European flights. A decision is expected later this year.
He told the newspaper: ‘We have been speaking to the airline through our worst recession and that is encouraging. The flights to Amritsar stopped on the day I joined the airport because Air India was keen to protect its flight slots at Heathrow – it was not due to demand. I am keen to bring them back and I think a lot of people in Birmingham and places like Leicester would be very pleased. Air India is keen to move its European hub and we are in the mix to pick that up.'
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Amsterdam - Pau
AF5246 AMS-PUF Sat 0730 - 0950
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A team from Air India are due back in Dublin in the next 6 - 8 weeks.
Air India considering operational base at Dublin - Economy and Politics - livemint.com
Air India considering operational base at Dublin - Economy and Politics - livemint.com
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Good to see that Leo Varadkar - who is of Indian descent - going to India to meet his Indian opposite number. Can't hurt!
It is also interesting to see that the negotiations seem to be talking place at government level, rather than at AI/DAA level; that, I think, is also a positive, because the Indian-Irish relationship can be pushed by other departments as well; perhaps a visit to Ireland by PM Manmohan Singh could be arranged; India is a massively important market, as a trading partner and as a possible tourism source, and we need to be aggressively proactive in getting into that market; getting AI to develop a hub at DUB would be a huge boost to that.
One possible obstacle is runway length, but extending this over a period of time (say 12-18 mos.) could be part of the deal. However, AI is one of the four or five carriers who will receive 787s this year (yes, at last!) and they would have no problem with DUB operations.
It is also interesting to see that the negotiations seem to be talking place at government level, rather than at AI/DAA level; that, I think, is also a positive, because the Indian-Irish relationship can be pushed by other departments as well; perhaps a visit to Ireland by PM Manmohan Singh could be arranged; India is a massively important market, as a trading partner and as a possible tourism source, and we need to be aggressively proactive in getting into that market; getting AI to develop a hub at DUB would be a huge boost to that.
One possible obstacle is runway length, but extending this over a period of time (say 12-18 mos.) could be part of the deal. However, AI is one of the four or five carriers who will receive 787s this year (yes, at last!) and they would have no problem with DUB operations.
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Im sorry and this is nothing against DUB/SNN in particular, but, I just dont see what the fuss is with this pre border clearance?!?
You still have to go through the same passport check procedures, you still have to queue but instead, they take your duty free allowance!
Yes, at the moment the queues are slightly smaller (at the USA I have personally never waited longer then 10-15 mins, and Ive arrived with a few international flights at once too), and the more and more flights that use DUB for the pre-clearance then negates the time saved as more people are queuing.
Then to DUB itself RE AI, I still think AI should go for BHX as a hub. The runway isnt that difference from DUB, but at least there is a huge population to support it (more than DUB could ever offer). Even MAN would be a better option, as it has the larger populations to support, and at least cargo could go out completly full.
Then again, has any decision by AI ever made sense?
You still have to go through the same passport check procedures, you still have to queue but instead, they take your duty free allowance!
Yes, at the moment the queues are slightly smaller (at the USA I have personally never waited longer then 10-15 mins, and Ive arrived with a few international flights at once too), and the more and more flights that use DUB for the pre-clearance then negates the time saved as more people are queuing.
Then to DUB itself RE AI, I still think AI should go for BHX as a hub. The runway isnt that difference from DUB, but at least there is a huge population to support it (more than DUB could ever offer). Even MAN would be a better option, as it has the larger populations to support, and at least cargo could go out completly full.
Then again, has any decision by AI ever made sense?
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The advantage is the ability to land in domestic terminals which are on the whole more efficient and less congested than the international ones.
At MCO you used to have to disembark, reclaim your bag, recheck your bag, clear security, take a train across the airport, then wait for your bag again. There's no need to do that any more.
At MCO you used to have to disembark, reclaim your bag, recheck your bag, clear security, take a train across the airport, then wait for your bag again. There's no need to do that any more.
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Airport alert as rogue passenger strolls past security and onto jet - National News, Frontpage - Herald.ie
How could he pass security and the boarding gate.
How could he pass security and the boarding gate.
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AA will re-launch daily flights ORD-DUB with B767-300
American Airlines Re-Launches Chicago - Dublin Flight and Moves to Dublin's Terminal 2 - Mar 25, 2011
American Airlines Re-Launches Chicago - Dublin Flight and Moves to Dublin's Terminal 2 - Mar 25, 2011
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And are AA going to stay of bugger off again in October!
Re T2 and all this chat about hubs n preclearance, T2 can hardly cope with the widebody aircraft on it at the moment never mind the second US flight and the return of AA.
It just dont have enough wide body stands unless some cartographer is busy with a pen tring to do a 36L and 36R type job to try and squeeze more parking stands... or are the DAA going to ask EI to go back to the B pier for UK and European flights to free up stands in T2???
Re T2 and all this chat about hubs n preclearance, T2 can hardly cope with the widebody aircraft on it at the moment never mind the second US flight and the return of AA.
It just dont have enough wide body stands unless some cartographer is busy with a pen tring to do a 36L and 36R type job to try and squeeze more parking stands... or are the DAA going to ask EI to go back to the B pier for UK and European flights to free up stands in T2???
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T2 8 wide body stands I think.
Aer Lingus A330 - 05:15 - 10:45 (daily)
Aer Lingus A330 - 05:20 - 14:10 (daily)
Aer Lingus A330 - 07:55 - 11:00 (Mon, Fri, Sun)
Aer Lingus A330 - 08:15 - 12:30 (Teu, Thurs, Sat)
Aer Lingus A330 - 09:50 - 17:00 (daily)
Aer Lingus A330 - 08:25 - 12:50 (daily)
Continental B757 - 06:55 - 09:00 (daily)
Continental B757 - 09:25 - 10:55 (daily)
Delta - B757 - 08:45 - 10:30 (daily)
Delta - A330/B767 - 10:30 - 12:30 (daily)
American - B767 - 08:00 - 10:00 (daily)
US Airways - B767 - 08:45 - 11:15 (daily)
US Airways - B757 - 06:50 - 09:15 (daily)
Eithad Airways - A330 - 07:50 - 09:20 (daily except Tues)
Eithad Airways - A330 - 14:55 - 20:55 (Sat, Sun, Tues, Thur)
Even if Some of the Aer Lingus A330 are moved away from stands during the week there will still be problems on Weekends as they operate AGP, FAO in the mornings.
Just imagine if Air Canada (B767) Air Transit (A330/A310) and Sunwing (B767) were operateing out of T2 as well.
They have flights on Sale next winter.
Aer Lingus Regional flights to Aberdeen and Bristol will operate form T2 from tomorrow. Thats according to Dublin Airport website Flights info.
Aer Lingus A330 - 05:15 - 10:45 (daily)
Aer Lingus A330 - 05:20 - 14:10 (daily)
Aer Lingus A330 - 07:55 - 11:00 (Mon, Fri, Sun)
Aer Lingus A330 - 08:15 - 12:30 (Teu, Thurs, Sat)
Aer Lingus A330 - 09:50 - 17:00 (daily)
Aer Lingus A330 - 08:25 - 12:50 (daily)
Continental B757 - 06:55 - 09:00 (daily)
Continental B757 - 09:25 - 10:55 (daily)
Delta - B757 - 08:45 - 10:30 (daily)
Delta - A330/B767 - 10:30 - 12:30 (daily)
American - B767 - 08:00 - 10:00 (daily)
US Airways - B767 - 08:45 - 11:15 (daily)
US Airways - B757 - 06:50 - 09:15 (daily)
Eithad Airways - A330 - 07:50 - 09:20 (daily except Tues)
Eithad Airways - A330 - 14:55 - 20:55 (Sat, Sun, Tues, Thur)
Even if Some of the Aer Lingus A330 are moved away from stands during the week there will still be problems on Weekends as they operate AGP, FAO in the mornings.
Just imagine if Air Canada (B767) Air Transit (A330/A310) and Sunwing (B767) were operateing out of T2 as well.
And are AA going to stay of bugger off again in October!
Aer Lingus Regional flights to Aberdeen and Bristol will operate form T2 from tomorrow. Thats according to Dublin Airport website Flights info.
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Saw this link in another forum
//business-standard.com/india/news/once-bitten-air-india-shies-awayeurope/430127/
“We do not plan to make any hub in Europe, or Dublin for that matter, because it does not make sense for a carrier like us, which has direct flights to the US. All our flights are doing well,” said a top AI official, who did not want to be identified."
“With the amount of fuel you need to have in the aircraft for a Delhi-Dublin flight, a Boeing 777 will not be able to land or take off on this runway. For such operations, one at least needs a 10,500-ft runway,” said Mohan Ranganathan, a Chennai-based aviation analyst, who has worked as a pilot with various airlines.
He adds that the airport is also “notorious” when it comes to landing and takeoff, and pilots need special training, which would be further trouble for the ailing carrier."
//business-standard.com/india/news/once-bitten-air-india-shies-awayeurope/430127/
“We do not plan to make any hub in Europe, or Dublin for that matter, because it does not make sense for a carrier like us, which has direct flights to the US. All our flights are doing well,” said a top AI official, who did not want to be identified."
“With the amount of fuel you need to have in the aircraft for a Delhi-Dublin flight, a Boeing 777 will not be able to land or take off on this runway. For such operations, one at least needs a 10,500-ft runway,” said Mohan Ranganathan, a Chennai-based aviation analyst, who has worked as a pilot with various airlines.
He adds that the airport is also “notorious” when it comes to landing and takeoff, and pilots need special training, which would be further trouble for the ailing carrier."
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I guess we all kind of knew that the runway length would be an issue, but hopefully this might act as a prompt to do something about it.
As for the rest of the comments ... yes, Dublin was one of those peculiarly difficult straight in approaches with ILS, PAPIs and a lack of mountains or particularly bad weather ... very difficult indeed (well, for pilots who haven't forged their flying licences!)
As for the rest of the comments ... yes, Dublin was one of those peculiarly difficult straight in approaches with ILS, PAPIs and a lack of mountains or particularly bad weather ... very difficult indeed (well, for pilots who haven't forged their flying licences!)
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My mother took the afternoon EI flight to JFK today and was surprised to discover that it does not use the much-promoted pre-clearance.
EI139 - DUB - BOS
Both don't use pre clearance in Dublin. No idea why.
All other Aer Lingus US flights us it here in Dublin.
Aer Lingus: Travel Information - US immigration
There is still officials from Air India due in Dublin in the next 3 - 4 weeks.