Ryanair - 8

[racedo]

A major has history, culture and, if you like, breeding. BA has all three and Ryan only has one, that being a greed "culture".

Is this the breeding of strikes, disputes and abandoning passengers and their luggage again and again and thats just since the millenium.

You keep with the breeding I think the passengers want someone to take them from A to B and not go on strike again and again.

[eastern wiseguy]

someone to take them from A to B

Or near A to somewhere a bus ride from B.....



Teddies in pram chaps......teasing

[TSR2]

Well done Ryanair .
I see that Ryanair put on extra flights to get Passengers home after all the snow and ATC problems, what good customer service, I mean other Airlines have just made people rebook on the next avaiable flight

They would not have needed to if they had operated the flights in the first place, and what do you think Ryanair passengers who's flights were unnecessarily cancelled had to do?

Appalling customer care and that goes for EZY and ZB.

[racedo]

They would not have needed to if they had operated the flights in the first place, and what do you think Ryanair passengers who's flights were unnecessarily cancelled had to do?

Why not ask the folks at Gatwick, Edinburgh and ATC Spain about that......oh wait you only seeking to bitch about Ryanair so guess that won't be happeneing.

[TSR2]

racedo

You very conveniently omit my last statement (reference to EZY and ZB) to enable you to brand me as a Ryanair basher. I repeat, it is a bitch against ANY airline who cancels flights to suit their own convenience.

If you check previous postings on this thread, you will see that I brought up this subject in response to an incorrect statement that 'All flights to Spain have been cancelled'. They were not, LS, TOM and TCX operated flights to various destinations in Spain albeit very late but at least they got their passengers to their destination.

If you also check the thread in Passengers and SLF you will see that I have also been critical of EZY and ZB so please do not accuse me of being an FR basher.

It would appear that you cannot accept any criticism of Ryanair without accusation of FR bashing.

[JayPee28bpr]

daz211 #186

Well done Ryanair .
I see that Ryanair put on extra flights to get Passengers home after all the snow and ATC problems, what good customer service, I mean other Airlines have just made people rebook on the next avaiable flight...

I'm guessing you work for Ryanair!

Let me tell you my partner's experience with Ryanair. She was due to fly from Aberdeen to Dublin last Tuesday. They got as far as the pre-boarding passport and boarding card check, and were then told the flight was cancelled having been diverted to Prestwick on its inbound journey. Although Dublin had been closed that morning (meaning the DUB-ABZ flight was late to leave), Aberdeen was open at the time the plane would have landed. In short, there was no operational reason at all to cancel the flight.

FR only operate DUB-ABZ-DUB every other day, so my partner was stranded in Aberdeen until Thursday. The flight was cancelled again, for exactly the same reason: diverted to Prestwick because of "snow at Aberdeen". Every other flight acheduled to arrive at Aberdeen, other than those departing closed airports (eg Gatwick) did arrive in Aberdeen that day, except for the one and only Ryanair flight from Dublin. Therefore my partner was stuck in Aberdeen for another two days and finally got home on Saturday.

So, the only reason Ryanair could put on extra flights elsewhere was because, as usual, they cynically decided to strand passengers at what they consider to be unimportant locations on routes where they face no competition, and instead utilise the planes to repatriate passengers to/from more profitable locations. Whilst this might make commercial sense, please don't insult peoples' intelligence by suggesting this is any kind of customer service revolution at Ryanair. It isn't. They continue to be as blissfully unconcerned about their passengers as they always have been.

[Jamie2k9]

TSR2

They would not have needed to if they had operated the flights in the first place, and what do you think Ryanair passengers who's flights were unnecessarily canceled had to do?

If the flights were canceled people would be giving out.
If the flights operated people would be giving out when the flights are delayed for hours.

No matter what FR do they will always be people who aren't going to be happy.

A lot of TOM, TCX, MON etc flights between Spain and the UK & Ireland were delayed over 12 Hours. The flights departed the airport but were diverted to other airports in Spain.

A lot of passengers would prefer to have there flights canceled rather than being delayed for hours in a airport.

If the flights had operated they would of being a huge knock on effect as crews and aircraft would be grounded on Spain and other flights (not to Spain) would of had to be canceled because crews would of worked there hours and there would of being no aircraft to operate other flights because they would of being grounded in Spain.

What do you expect an airline to do????

I suppose that Easyjet unnecessarily canceled more than 100 flights from Spain as well. Don't see you giving out about tham.

JayPee28bpr - ABZ - DUB

I presume you mean Tuesday November 30. You should check all your facts before posting.

The DUB - ABZ flights was delayed due to adverse weather and de-icing of aircraft at Dublin Airport earlier that morning. When the flight departed and while on route to ABZ it started to snow in ABZ.

Aberdeen Airport (ABZ_Airport) on Twitter

Aberdeen Airport is not closed, in fact we have not closed at all today.

short time later:

We are clearing the latest snow fall but it should not take long. Terminal, check in, security, all still open as normal.

So the airport was open but they had to close the runway for a short time.

A Ryanair B738 would use a lot more of the 1829m runway at ABZ than the likes of Eastren Airways and Flybe etc and thats why all other flights arrived as scheduled.

[The-Zenith]

What you see is what you get with Ryanair when everything in the garden is rosey theres none better. But as soon as the brown stuff hits the twirly object. Then your pretty much stuffed. You pays yer money and takes your choice, but sure as eggs are eggs if a regular commuter you're going to get inconvenienced eventually.

[Noxegon]

Looks like Ducksy wasn't amused after all!

Ryanair pilot 'sent to Siberia' after O'Leary jibe | Business | guardian.co.uk

[Sober Lark]

Surely basic intelligence reasons against such simplistic conclusions Noxegon?

[compton3bravo]

I have told you before do not call me Shirley!

[Johnny455]

FR Irish Air Travel Tax

Whats the story now about Ryanairs presence in Ireland with the Air Travel tax reduced by 7 euro to 3 euro

Will there be any new routes from airports in Ireland?

[eu01]

with the Air Travel tax reduced by 7 euro to 3 euro... will there be any new routes from airports in Ireland?

Probably not, according to MOL:

While the Govt reduces the tourist tax by €7, the Govt owned DAA monopoly has increased airport fees by over €11 per departing passenger over 2010 and 2011.

“Irish traffic and tourism can be restored to growth. Ryanair has submitted proposals to the Govt, to grow traffic and tourism dramatically, but only when the tourist tax is scrapped and the high cost DAA airport monopoly broken up, so that competition between terminals at Dublin Airport and between Cork and Shannon airports is allowed to deliver competitive airport fees and improved passenger services where the DAA monopoly has failed.

“One has to ask why airport fees are rising yet again in January to pay for the DAA’s €1.2bn white elephant T2, and their overpaid semi-state fat cat boss who earns over €600,000 p.a., while the airport company he runs loses money. ”

Nevertheless, the tax reduction should be considered as a partial success of Ryanair's CEO. After all, he has a powerful argument that gives him the ability to exert a substancial pressure on governments: his airline.

[Stevek]

In fairness the drop in departure tax is probably more related to do with the EU ruling the two rate system was illegal.

[Jamie2k9]

It simple if Ryanair and othe airlines flying from Ireland don't add routes or increase flights the tax will go up in the Budget for 2012. The finance M said if there is no growth in visitors coming to Ireland next year then it will go back up from Jan 2012.

[INKJET]

Well MOL seems to have won is battle with the Irish Government, travel tax dropped from 10 Euro's to 3 Euro's let see how many aircraft are brought back to Dublin, the problem is that no one in Ireland is going to have any money to spend and visitors have by and large done Dublin just have they have done PRG

[Sober Lark]

...And seemingly the Government state airlines are not to profit from the reduction in tax.. Imagine leaving the stable door open like that. Quite comical really.

I'm not convinced a reduction in tax from €10 to €3 will make that much of a difference to incoming tourist demand to Ireland. Factors such as how much it actually costs to holiday when you get there are probably more obvious deciding factors. Should boost outgoing traffic though.

[clareview]

Ryanair and airport tax

Well doen to all involved including those like Ryaniar that lobbied for this. Whilst it could be better, to quote from the advert from another very well known giant, "every little helps". What is needed now is a campaign to get inward tourists. For that to happen, not only does that cost of flying have to be attractive, so does accommodation, eating and shopping. I still do not see many bargain hotel rooms in Dublin

[airbourne]

So MOL complains about the DAA putting up its fees, he is also not happy with the travel tax, but has no problem sticking another €1 on to the online check in! €6 to check in yourself, print your own boarding pass etc! I wonder how many people that will stop from travelling!!

[irish lad]

We're trying to save 6 billion.. this new rate of 3euro will save us 35m! Would it not have made more sence to scrap this rate all together, together with the daa temporally following the spainish with a zero charge for airlines? Although this would cost the daa they could take in more money when airlines increase passanger numbers through extra money from parking, rent rates on commercial businesses at the airport
If this was implemented for say the next three to four years, by then growth may have returned to ireland (hopefully) and we can afford to pay the daa charges...