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Old 23rd Jul 2012, 17:16
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STN-GRZ ends 5th Nov. Not for the first time. Think this is effectively a seasonal route these days so may reappear for the summer apparently.
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Old 23rd Jul 2012, 22:31
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Budget airline Ryanair expresses interest in entering Israeli market
I wonder what turnaround times they could have. 25 minutes will be too short for all the security checks for flights to/from Israel.
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Old 23rd Jul 2012, 22:50
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Charlie - would it be a major crisis if the turnaround time in Tel Aviv was 45 mins instead of the standard 25 mins ?

Out of interest - what's happened to Air Malta, since the LCC invasion ? Are the LCCs pummelling Air Malta into dust, or are the Maltese finding ways to compete effectively ?
Further, what's happened to El Al loads on their Heathrow / Luton and Geneva routes since Easyjet began flying to Tel Aviv ?

I'm wondering if El Al will partly be seen as a strategic asset by the Israeli Govt not only for cultural reasons but also because of history (particularly given that the neighbourhood is not always that peaceful) and in the absence of EU membership, constraints might be put on what LCCs can do.
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Old 24th Jul 2012, 03:33
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We frequently have longer turn arounds in airports where the 25 min turn is not possible, Spain being a major factor (airbridges etc.) I think theres a 1 hr 15 minute turn in PMI for a LPL A/C. 35-50 mins is the average in built up Spanish airports - and thats a turnaround not the standard "firebreak" crew change earlies/lates which is a standard 50 mins.

There are rumblings of heading more and more East. Should all these countries begin open skies then thats where the money will be as the market is less mature from the typical western Europe.
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Old 24th Jul 2012, 11:31
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Barcelona and Madrid Reductions

Routes Cancelled from Barcelona - East Midalnds, Hambrug LBC, Leeds, Trieste.

Routes Cancelled from Madrid - Verona, Poznan, Manchester, Girona, Hahn, Eindhoven, Weeze, Cagliari, Bari, Ancona, Almeria.

Reductions on 46 from both airports.
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Old 24th Jul 2012, 14:21
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From Travel Mole:

Ryanair to axe flights to Spain

Ryanair has become the latest budget airline to axe flights to Spain following a doubling of airport taxes.

EasyJet announced last week that it was closing its Madrid base and cutting the number of flights to Spain by 7% this winter due to the higher charges.

Now Ryanair has confirmed it will drop flights from the UK to both Madrid and Barcelona this winter.

It is axing 11 routes to Madrid, including flights from Manchester, and four routes to Barcelona, including flights from East Midlands and Leeds Bradford. It is also reducing frequency on many routes from both airports, including to Edinburgh, Glasgow and Liverpool from Barcelona.

Ryanair said the decision was in response to a doubling of airport departure taxes from July 1.

From November, Ryanair will base three fewer aircraft at Madrid and two fewer at Barcelona's El Prat airport.
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Old 24th Jul 2012, 15:14
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Talk about biting the hand that feeds you! Tourism is a major industry for Spain, no wonder visitor numbers are falling

I also think its disgraceful how the extra tax applied retrospectively.
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I think the numbers posted above for ACE and TFS show impact of low charges but guess its easier to cut than understand the impact.

If current Spanish crises continues then deflation is quite likely as have seen happen on the last few visits I have made to visit friends in Ireland..........Beer may not be cheaper but eating out definitely is.
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Old 25th Jul 2012, 11:52
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Now that several used long haul aircraft are becoming available at what are likely to be very good prices for the airline (A340-600's ex Virgin and others) can we expect an imminent announcement that RYR will now set up their much flaunted subsidiary to operate long haul flights?
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Old 25th Jul 2012, 12:40
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Not good news for Ryanair, Aer Lingus or Arann.

Irish air travel tax unfair - European Commission - RT News

The European Commission has decided that the Irish air travel tax is unfair and has ordered Ireland to recover the advantage from all airlines that have benefited from it.
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Old 25th Jul 2012, 12:57
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However, there is also a good news for two airports, in Finland and Greece.
the European Commission has concluded that financial arrangements between the airport of Tampere Pirkkala in Finland and Ryanair do not constitute state aid in the meaning of EU rules because they are in line with market terms.

The Commission also has found investment aid in favour of the Chania airport in Greece to be in line with EU state aid rules, in particular because it is well-targeted and proportionate to the objective pursued.
I could envisage MOL flying to Tampere dressed in an elk costume and claiming victory. Unfortunately elks aren't too smart, but never mind. New routes to Finland, presumably?
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Old 25th Jul 2012, 14:18
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BHX-BCN

Now Ryanair has confirmed it will drop flights from the UK to both Madrid and Barcelona this winter.

It is axing 11 routes to Madrid, including flights from Manchester, and four routes to Barcelona, including flights from East Midlands and Leeds Bradford. It is also reducing frequency on many routes from both airports, including to Edinburgh, Glasgow and Liverpool from Barcelona.
Yet is introducing BHX-BCN? How very contrary to the spat with increased airport charhes and nothing i'm sure to do with the fact that ZB operate this route too?
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Old 27th Jul 2012, 17:14
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"Kaunas will remain an important base of Ryanair" - announced the carrier's spokesperson in Lithuania. And... the details are:
- only four routes from/to Kaunas will continue: HHN, STN, DUB, BRS.
- from Nov 7th, all other routes will be shifted to Vilnius.
Concisely, that's all.

Loyalty, partner's interest, agreements? What the heck is it?
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Old 27th Jul 2012, 22:33
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kaunas ryanair

officially lithuanian ministry of transport says this is purely ryr wish to compete head to head with wizz in vilnius. unoficial info suggests it is much more complicated. kun and vno are located just 100km apart. the official strategy for years was that kaunas is an lcc base and vilnius is for legacy carriers. very similar relation like between zaventem and charleroi. kaunas was the first to bring both w6 and ryr to lt and was home to the first ever lcc base in the baltics, which was also first ryr base in central europe.

and then pure politics starts. you might be surprised but in lithuania you have a very centralised govt approach, at least if compared to western europe. with national carrier going bankrupt, vilnius airport was also desperately looking for new partners. kun was faster and a couple of years ago for some time had almost same number of pax as vilnius. due to the crisis vilnius did not manage to attract any serious legacy carriers thus the minister of transport decided there is a need to change a strategy and have lccs in vilnius too (up to 40 percent of the total i believe, guess it might have been exceeded). taking the belgian example, imagine federal mobility service deciding zaventem should open up to lccs and compete directly with charleroi (but under lithuanian terms ,meaning it is not private operators who manage the airports but people appointed by the ministry). hence vilnius agreed on wizzair flights/base, from that moment ryanair was programmed to set the foot to vilnius too. in response, kaunas tried to go to legacy carriers with little success (too close to vilnius and not a capital city). rumours goingthat once kaunas managed to persuade air baltic to have flight to riga, there was little of joy in the ministry, to put it softly.

anyway, the key problem is that the ministry sees kaunas airport is the headache for the local goverbnment while vilnius airport is a national priority with corresponding financing and marketing. also they seem to be quite keen to beat tallinn in pax numbers and the easiest is to move ryr flights to vilnius.

i guess there are no prospects for kaunas as long as the central government gives priority to vilnius. i assume there was lots of pressure put from the ministry on kaunas airport management, given that ceo announced resignation last week. if any ryanair insiders could tell more of their medium term plans for both airports, would be great.

interesting whether such a penetration of lccs in vilnius makes it still interesting for new legacy carriers. maybe someone from vilnius colleagues could comment, notably what would be the division of seats available in the winter season btw legacy carriers and lccs (i guess lccs might account for more than half, but that's a pure guess). my guess is that in winter there will be so much competition in vilnius in the lcc sector that financial gains for any newcomers won't be attractive. in addition, ex kaunas passengers from northwest lt will shift to riga, those from eastern poland and kaliningrad to warsaw modlin etc.

anyway a classic example of ryr power to boost and to kill an airport who depends almost exclusively on them. i am wondering what happens to their mro facility project in kaunas?
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Ground Collision

Incident: Ryanair B738 and American B763 at Barcelona on May 27th 2011, both aircraft departed despite ground collision and passenger complaints

Anybody verify the accuracy of this report.

I couldn't find it "Rumours and News"

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Old 29th Jul 2012, 16:24
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Anybody verify the accuracy of this report.
How much verification do you want, it's there in black and white.
Captain was demoted so they resigned.

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Old 29th Jul 2012, 16:35
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Please see here for details. Accident: Ryanair B738 and American B763 at Barcelona on Apr 14th 2011, both aircraft departed despite ground collision and passenger complaints

Only one prob - the date on the photo of the 767 seems to be 14.04.2011 ? Sorry OP I repeated your link.

CAT III

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Old 29th Jul 2012, 16:47
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CAT111-NDB And you are telling me because? I know all about it already, its O P that is asking about it!
I see a new thread on R & N about it too.
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Q1 Results

Q1 results: 1st Quarter Results - London Stock Exchange

Summary:
  • Profit up down from €139m to €99m, hit by the cost of fuel (up by €117m compared to Q1 last year)
  • Full year 2013 profit guidance €400m to €440m unchanged
  • Some fuel hedging in place at lower prices for Q1 and Q2 next year
  • Average fare up 4%
  • Passengers up 6%
  • Revenues up 11%
  • Last 11 aircraft to be delivered this winter

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Old 30th Jul 2012, 09:07
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Disappointing 1st Quarter but it was signalled well in advance that fuel costs were going to have a negative impact and hit from a weaker €-£ always going to be painful given the massive benefits taken when it went the other way.

OTOH a profit is still a profit.
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