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Old 10th Nov 2011, 22:13
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Thank you for the list Jamie2k9
Ryanair is so bizarre. It has a monster row with Girona, pulls loads of routes, opens at El Prat, and then Pee reports it's opening a new route from Turku to Girona rather than BCN. Perhaps Finnair or someone already operates HEL-BCN, so Ryanair are playing clever - but then Pee says Turku isn't exactly near Helsinki. Or perhaps Finns have a particular liking for holidays/second homes on the Costas Brava and Maresme.
It's overall capacity that is what matters. One new route can be cancelled out by others being withdrawn
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Nice to be debating on a forum with you again AH!

It's overall capacity that is what matters. One new route can be cancelled out by others being withdrawn

Would you care to expand on this? I think I know where you're coming from, but not exactly sure.
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Old 10th Nov 2011, 22:33
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FR, I wasn't aware the HUY seats were being sold to travel agents? I was under the impression the only 'packages' being sold were tailor made holidays via Humbersides in house travel agent.

Good news if they are stopping all the same, perhaps a couple more if they are in fact scaling back at DSA? The relationship with MAG seems to be at an all time high. Not to.mention if there genuinely is such local travel agent support.

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Old 11th Nov 2011, 00:13
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ahhhhhhhhhhh hehe

my bad!

EXCELLENT news!

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Old 11th Nov 2011, 09:12
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any news yet about Stansted - Biarritz ?
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Old 11th Nov 2011, 13:57
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Another nail in the coffin for DSA.
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Old 11th Nov 2011, 18:07
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Any news of the summer program for Marseille MP2?
W rotations like this winter, night stops or re-opening of the base?
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Old 11th Nov 2011, 22:14
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Nice to be debating on a forum with you again AH!

It's overall capacity that is what matters. One new route can be cancelled out by others being withdrawn

Would you care to expand on this? I think I know where you're coming from, but not exactly sure
Say if overall capacity was reduced from 100,000 seats per year to 80,000. Even if a new route was added, the overall impact on passenger figures is negative
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Old 12th Nov 2011, 11:01
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Any crews got an idea on how the reserved seating is getting on. I heard its not doing so well on BGY based a/c.

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Old 12th Nov 2011, 13:10
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Have heard of people being charged for the seat even if they didnt sell them pre-flight and now they are the only seats free....!!My advice would be never buy priority in any airport where they use a bus to get you to the A/C.Some times they use the first bus purely for priority boarding but most of the time its first come first serve after the bus.
Why bother with reserve seating if the flight is only an hour or so,€540 odd million profit for 6 months and they still want more money from you.Buy your food in the airport,buy a good headset for music etc,and sit down and be quite!!!
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Old 12th Nov 2011, 14:30
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I know what you mean about bussing pax, i had this problem last year in IBZ, and it upset alot of pax. Whenever I had pax telling me about this last year I always wrote it down on the inflight report, wrote a report myself to ground ops, also told the pax to write in. After travelling to IBZ as pax myself this year this problem had been sorted, the queue system was alittle odd, but all the priority got onto the bus and off first before the others.

This year I have noticed in both IBZ and PMI were a bus is used priority will exit first via the front doors, then once at the steps the rest will be let off. Still the odd problem every now any again, but please do tell the number one on the flight to report it, and write in. If we don't know about problems we cant do anything about them.

I know crew can charge for these legroom seats if no one else has already booked them. But I dont see why the crew would charge for them if their was no other seats.

I wouldnt buy the reserved seating myself on a one hour flight, but ive heard a few business pax buying on the DUB-LGW to allow them to get off quick and beat the rush.

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Old 12th Nov 2011, 14:38
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If 189 passengers buy a ticket for a particular flight, and none of them pays for the extra legroom, and they all turn up at the gate 30 mins in advance, what happens at boarding ?
Would passengers be denied boarding because they weren't willing to pay extra at the gate ?
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Old 12th Nov 2011, 15:04
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All pax would be allowed on. Not sure if you fill the 'normal' seats first to check everyone does turn up. I can not find the memo to check. I can count on hand how many times ive had 189 actually turn up.

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Old 12th Nov 2011, 15:41
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trick is,ask the boarding crew at the gate if the flight is full,then if it is,just wait til the end and board then,could well be a few reserved seats available and they would have no choice but to give it to you.On the other hand,if the flight is full and all reserved seats have been booked then this trick wont work.However you will always get a seat,just a case of trying to beat them at their own game!!!
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Old 12th Nov 2011, 16:55
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Any crews got an idea on how the reserved seating is getting on. I heard its not doing so well on BGY based a/c.

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Nothing to do with FR but its doing very well from Dublin and FR are looking about having it on all flights from Dublin by next summer.
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Old 12th Nov 2011, 17:52
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It may not be true, but according to the on-line check-in the following routes should take place soon from Marseille MP2.

"New" routes that have already existed in the past
-Beauvais
-Frankfurt Hahn
-Tenerife South

Summer routes :
-Agadir
-Cagliari
-Dublin
-Düsseldorf Weeze
-Malaga
-Nador
-Palermo
-Stockholm Skavsta
-Valencia
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Old 12th Nov 2011, 22:02
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Flights to Alicante

I see that it is still impossible to book flights to ALC after March 2012, I presume due to the dispute over the use of air-bridges. Given that every other carrier is selling flights to ALC for summer 2012, how long will MOL/AENA hold out before coming to an agreement?
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Old 12th Nov 2011, 22:20
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how long will MOL/AENA hold out before coming to an agreement
MOL will hang out as long as it takes. He has said many times that Ryanair does not need Alicante but Alicante needs Ryanair. There can only be one outcome but as for how long, lets see what the elections bring in the coming weeks. Local business leaders are getting restless.
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Old 12th Nov 2011, 22:33
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Can Ryanair afford to wait much beyond about late December ? Decisions about where aircraft will be deployed during the summer season eventually need to be made, and presumably once the Xmas season is over, people in northern Europe start to think about booking their summer holiday
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Old 12th Nov 2011, 22:47
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MOL will hang out as long as it takes. He has said many times that Ryanair does not need Alicante but Alicante needs Ryanair. There can only be one outcome but as for how long, lets see what the elections bring in the coming weeks. Local business leaders are getting restless.
Does MOL allow one airport dictate which means every body else does the same, or do as has happened again and again and show who needs who.

Airports have a choice as do airlines.
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