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Old 8th Nov 2011, 12:52
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In-flight pornography? If that's what people are ready to pay for during the flight and if that form of ancillary revenue would lower fares... Absolutely not interested myself, but don't know what people might think. Or is it just the next publicity stunt of MOL?

Concerning all these aircraft standing during the winter season. I'd try something new. Like creating "low season connecting hubs" for every small airport in the FR network. During the winter, when the load factors worsen and flight frequencies normally fall, I'd entirely stop connecting the smallest airports with each other. It really doesn't pay. Instead, I'd determine (specify) one FR base for every small non-base airport in Europe and I'd start to transfer all local pax only there. Once in the evening, once in the morning. Say, HHN for Plovdiv, CRL for LPP, NRN for Småland, STN for Haugesund, BGY for Brno and so on. Selling these pax connecting flights to other major cities: Madrid, Paris, Rome. With so many "spare" aircraft it could work. And that way only for winter, during the summer schedules returning to operate just the core business, point-to-point.

Just some thoughts of mine...
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 13:54
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In order to keep costs to an absolute minimum, perhaps MOL should star in these adult films himself. Just think ... no wages to pay, no licensing fees. Perhaps some of the local politicians who subsidise RYR services could agree to star alongside him as part of their 'support package' ... what could possibly go wrong?
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A comment found on the net: How can you plan in-flight pornography reducing at the same time the amount of toilets on the plane?
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@EU01 - jack-off paper bags for €5 will do the job )
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 17:28
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'Or is it just the next publicity stunt of MOL?'

Might have turned a corner there with your understanding of MOL.....?

'Just some thoughts of mine...' er yeah just keep'em to yourself in

future - thanks.

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Old 8th Nov 2011, 19:52
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Let's go back to business. Isn't the Turin (Torino) base more likely now than ever before? I'd bet it is...
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 20:12
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Originally Posted by mickyman
pee

'Just some thoughts of mine...' er yeah just keep'em to yourself in

future - thanks.

MM
I for one would much prefer to read and discuss reasonable alternative ideas for deploying the aircraft rather than wade through puerile Ryanair-is-great-no-it-isn't-yes-it-is argy-bargy. Feel free to skip the network suggestion posts if you don't like them, but don't assume that everyone else feels the same way.
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 20:19
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I for one would much prefer to read and discuss reasonable alternative ideas for deploying the aircraft rather than wade through puerile Ryanair-is-great-no-it-isn't-yes-it-is argy-bargy. Feel free to skip the network suggestion posts if you don't like them, but don't assume that everyone else feels the same way.
Tis a fair comment.....

In the old days the movement of aircraft out of season was the start of the Aircraft leasing business but not sure it is as applicable these days.
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 21:23
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'Concerning all these aircraft standing during the winter season. I'd try something new. Like creating "low season connecting hubs" for every small airport in the FR network. During the winter, when the load factors worsen and flight frequencies normally fall, I'd entirely stop connecting the smallest airports with each other. It really doesn't pay.'

Ryanair have a tried and tested formula/mode of operations which has been a success for many years - perhaps they realise the limits during
the winter months of this business model and are flexible enough to
store aircraft for a while.Perhaps they just know what they are doing?

pee - sorry I was a bit too rude initially.

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Old 9th Nov 2011, 08:27
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Is there somebody with news over the restart of some of the Eindhoven routes? The Eindhoven - Oslo (Rygge) route was stopped without any announcement. The rumour was that it would return last april (2011). A friend of mine was told the same by one of the Rygge ground crew.

Besides that, in Oct 2006 Ryanair started Eindhoven - Glasgow (Prestwick), but that stopped as well. So, Eindhoven Airport hasn't got a route to the UK besides London. Scotland is very popular with Dutch old people and I like to see it myself as well. So, any chance for routes to Scotland? Prestwick or Edinburgh.

Thanks in advance
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Old 9th Nov 2011, 08:53
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First quoting mickyman:
Ryanair have a tried and tested formula/mode of operations which has been a success for many years (...) Perhaps they just know what they are doing?
Then quoting others:
Everything can be improved. (C. W. Barron)

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He who stops being better stops being good. (Oliver Cromwell)

One of the best uses of your time is to increase your competence in your key result areas. (Brian Tracy)

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To improve is to change; to be perfect is to change often. (Winston Churchill)

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My own thoughts I'll try to keep to myself, promise.
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Old 9th Nov 2011, 10:00
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Don't worry Pee. He is looking into steam generator units for in-flight saunas for their Scandinavian customers. The in-flight trolley service is to sell back brushes, sand timers, buckets, dippers and whisks. I kid you not this is from a reliable source and remember where you heard it first.
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Old 9th Nov 2011, 12:32
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Some years ago various European charter airlines had arrangements with non-EU airlines to sub-lase a/c to them, even with crews. Those airlines had winter peaks in their schedules. It might have been only for a couple of months, e.g. Caribbean over Christmas and school holidays from USA & Canada. There might be some S.Hemisphere operators, S.America or S.Africa, even India, China or Indonesia that need a help out. Has RYR even considered these possibilities. However, no crew or engineers to send as chaperones might stifle the plan.
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Old 9th Nov 2011, 13:00
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Is there somebody with news over the restart of some of the Eindhoven routes? The Eindhoven - Oslo (Rygge) route was stopped without any announcement. The rumour was that it would return last april (2011). A friend of mine was told the same by one of the Rygge ground crew.

Besides that, in Oct 2006 Ryanair started Eindhoven - Glasgow (Prestwick), but that stopped as well. So, Eindhoven Airport hasn't got a route to the UK besides London. Scotland is very popular with Dutch old people and I like to see it myself as well. So, any chance for routes to Scotland? Prestwick or Edinburgh.

Thanks in advance
As far as I know the EIN-RYG and EIN-PIK route were terminated because of low load factors. Maybe in the future EIN-EDI will come up??
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Old 9th Nov 2011, 15:50
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Eindhoven to Bristol has been closed as well due to low load factors
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Old 9th Nov 2011, 16:04
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BRS to EIN

Bristol to Eindhoven been gone for a long, long time!
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Old 9th Nov 2011, 16:49
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The growth from EIN is especially in the (sun) holiday markets. But who knows, the STN frequency did go from 12x to 16x weekly :-)
The summer slots will be released somewhere next week so we should know more then!
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Old 10th Nov 2011, 06:27
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I always thought doing special Champions League/Europa League point-to point flights with the grounded aircraft would have made sense. FR has aircraft in (or close to) virtually every major city in europe, and would have made an ideal revenue stream through out the winter. On second thoughts probably more effective to ground the plane for the full winter than flying them once a fortnight.
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Old 10th Nov 2011, 07:26
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AMS Flyer - EIN PIK never actually got off the ground. Ryanair cancelled the route long before the first flight was due to take off.
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Old 10th Nov 2011, 09:01
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Next Ryanair's destination in Finland will be Turku. Flights from CRL and STN will start end March, in Summer probably also Barcelona (BCN?) and Malaga.
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