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Went out on Ek18 and back on 19 last night
I expected it to be bedlam around there but it was pretty smooth. Are EK going to twice 380? I was talking the the skipper and he seemed to think so
Rob
I expected it to be bedlam around there but it was pretty smooth. Are EK going to twice 380? I was talking the the skipper and he seemed to think so
Rob
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I hear it's usually ok for the A380 EK service as not many flights are departing arriving at Pier B at the same time, not sure about the 777 service. I wish they would hurry up with the new Pier B, but suppose that will be after the new ATC tower is bulit?
So nearly a month in, how's the re-surfacing on 23R/05L going? I'm off to Tenerife in March, land back in MAN on Thursday 31st March about 2AM hoping to be landing on 23L, never done that one before.
So nearly a month in, how's the re-surfacing on 23R/05L going? I'm off to Tenerife in March, land back in MAN on Thursday 31st March about 2AM hoping to be landing on 23L, never done that one before.
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Runway project
Runway rehabilitation project is presently installing the HV ring main which will feed the new lighting system, and building the substation to power it beside the radar tower near the road tunnels. Installation of new runway/approach lights begins in May, with new surface in June/July.
MAN canvassed pilot opinion on the preferred layout for the replacement approach lighting last year. This came out overwhelmingly in favour of retaining the 5-crossbar 'Calvert' system over the more common (worldwide) 2-crossbar ICAO standard system.
05R/23L will see plenty of use overnight this year, and we await CAA approval of the GNSS (P-RNAV) approach to 23L which will supplement the VOR/DME procedure. L.E.D. runway centreline lights are also to be trialled on 23L over the next few weeks, and if successful will be adopted in the re-lighting of 05L/23R.
MAN canvassed pilot opinion on the preferred layout for the replacement approach lighting last year. This came out overwhelmingly in favour of retaining the 5-crossbar 'Calvert' system over the more common (worldwide) 2-crossbar ICAO standard system.
05R/23L will see plenty of use overnight this year, and we await CAA approval of the GNSS (P-RNAV) approach to 23L which will supplement the VOR/DME procedure. L.E.D. runway centreline lights are also to be trialled on 23L over the next few weeks, and if successful will be adopted in the re-lighting of 05L/23R.
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Going Loco - at least my bandwidth occasionally has some relevance !
Please at least support your criticism with something worth debating !
My comments re Manchester being a regional city or a provincial city is totally irrelevant in the context of the re introduction of RYR service at Manchester so what exactly is your point ?
The only observation that came close to being a serious comment in your last posting simply comfirmed a limited approach to factual debate...
"is it better for MAN to have 18m passengers at £10 per pax profit or 25m passengers at £5 per pax profit" My God what a stupid, stupid question !
I would go for a stroll, suck a Wurthers and pop back when you have something factual to say which makes a positive or indeed negative contribution to the thread. At least we we can then argue the points seriously !
Please at least support your criticism with something worth debating !
My comments re Manchester being a regional city or a provincial city is totally irrelevant in the context of the re introduction of RYR service at Manchester so what exactly is your point ?
The only observation that came close to being a serious comment in your last posting simply comfirmed a limited approach to factual debate...
"is it better for MAN to have 18m passengers at £10 per pax profit or 25m passengers at £5 per pax profit" My God what a stupid, stupid question !
I would go for a stroll, suck a Wurthers and pop back when you have something factual to say which makes a positive or indeed negative contribution to the thread. At least we we can then argue the points seriously !
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Roverman - very detailed knowledge.
Methinks you are close to the action!
Could be some interesting arrivals to watch on 23L in the early hours of the summer months!
Methinks you are close to the action!
Could be some interesting arrivals to watch on 23L in the early hours of the summer months!
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Surely the CAA would have something to say about not using the Calvert system that is UK standard, if the scenario were that MAG in their almighty wisdom decided to use it...?
I could be wrong of course, it might not be a solid regulation but every other major airport in the UK uses it so I assumed it would be.
I could be wrong of course, it might not be a solid regulation but every other major airport in the UK uses it so I assumed it would be.
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Aerodrome characteristics
kdhurst380,
Although the UK has its own standards for aerodrome characteristics (CAP 168) these are based on ICAO Annex 14 with a few differences, of which the Calvert system is one. The CAA cannot refuse approval to anything which complies with Annex 14, although may ask the aerodrome operator to justify the difference through a safety case/ aeronautical study. This will increasingly be the case as we move to EASA certification of aerodrome standards. MAN considered the options for approach lighting, there are benefits with both, and ultimately acted on customer preference.
Although the UK has its own standards for aerodrome characteristics (CAP 168) these are based on ICAO Annex 14 with a few differences, of which the Calvert system is one. The CAA cannot refuse approval to anything which complies with Annex 14, although may ask the aerodrome operator to justify the difference through a safety case/ aeronautical study. This will increasingly be the case as we move to EASA certification of aerodrome standards. MAN considered the options for approach lighting, there are benefits with both, and ultimately acted on customer preference.
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Going back several pages, I agree that we will have to differ on MAG's approach to making their business public.
But just to reassure you that something is going on, I am told that there was an article in a recent Plane Talk noting that t'management had been to see Theresa Villiers (Ministress of Planes) a few times to discuss matters of interest. It also said how impressed she was with Manchester, but little else.
And here is a link to an article in the MEN at the weekend about APD
Airport lobbies against departure tax increase - Manchester Evening News
As for FR, I'm sure the Airport considered the impact on other airlines before doing the deal. They certainly did in the early days of lo-cos and didn't embrace them - which became the subject of a lot of criticsm here and elsewhere. If EZY had been thinking of MAD, I would have hoped that they shared their aspirations with the Airport first. But at the end of the day the Airport have a business to run and you can't please everyone all the time. And of course it sustains debate by all of us armchair experts who don't know the full picture
Personally I believe MO'Ls talk of a base at MAN is all hot air but it makes good headlines of course. Just look at how volatile the airline is, developing bases and then moving out in a relatively short period. Don't think MAN would want that; better to develop sustainable routes and services and look after all the customer airlines as best you can.
With FR on T2, I assume the inbound DUB pax will have to use the corridor used originally when they were in T2 to avoid the Border Control passport control?
Will the other flights use the main terminal stands with pax walking up and down the stairs (only one airbridge so destroys the quick turnaround times), or will the pax be bussed from/to remote stands? I assume a combination of both depending on what else is around?
Suzeman
Going back several pages, I agree that we will have to differ on MAG's approach to making their business public.
But just to reassure you that something is going on, I am told that there was an article in a recent Plane Talk noting that t'management had been to see Theresa Villiers (Ministress of Planes) a few times to discuss matters of interest. It also said how impressed she was with Manchester, but little else.
And here is a link to an article in the MEN at the weekend about APD
Airport lobbies against departure tax increase - Manchester Evening News
As for FR, I'm sure the Airport considered the impact on other airlines before doing the deal. They certainly did in the early days of lo-cos and didn't embrace them - which became the subject of a lot of criticsm here and elsewhere. If EZY had been thinking of MAD, I would have hoped that they shared their aspirations with the Airport first. But at the end of the day the Airport have a business to run and you can't please everyone all the time. And of course it sustains debate by all of us armchair experts who don't know the full picture
Personally I believe MO'Ls talk of a base at MAN is all hot air but it makes good headlines of course. Just look at how volatile the airline is, developing bases and then moving out in a relatively short period. Don't think MAN would want that; better to develop sustainable routes and services and look after all the customer airlines as best you can.
With FR on T2, I assume the inbound DUB pax will have to use the corridor used originally when they were in T2 to avoid the Border Control passport control?
Will the other flights use the main terminal stands with pax walking up and down the stairs (only one airbridge so destroys the quick turnaround times), or will the pax be bussed from/to remote stands? I assume a combination of both depending on what else is around?
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I wonder if the recent move by Ryanair to serve MAN-MAD will spur easyjet to operate MAN-MAD anyway?
They have had the whole north-west market share at LPL to themselves for a good few years now, and I doubt they will want those loads to be lost to Ryanair.
With Ryanair only 4 weekly, Im sure there is scope for a carrier to operate a daily shedule (Easy 7 weekly Ryanair 4 weekly), or, if the ryanair base does ever come to fruitition, they will add to the schedule with a MAN based frame?
They have had the whole north-west market share at LPL to themselves for a good few years now, and I doubt they will want those loads to be lost to Ryanair.
With Ryanair only 4 weekly, Im sure there is scope for a carrier to operate a daily shedule (Easy 7 weekly Ryanair 4 weekly), or, if the ryanair base does ever come to fruitition, they will add to the schedule with a MAN based frame?
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New Manchester Airport Air Traffic Control Tower
YouTube - New Manchester Airport Air Traffic Control Tower
"near the fire station". Something's got to go?
"near the fire station". Something's got to go?