MANCHESTER - 8
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: manchester
Posts: 526
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Reported on another forum:
Air Canada have been loaded back into Chroma Fusion (MAN airlines management/arrivals systems)
AC840 arrives 08:05 daily with B767-300
AC841 departs 09:35 daily with B767-300
Will be good if these guys come back, as airlines on the YYZ route seem to have diminished back to a managable level again (basically just TS this year compared to TCX/TS/Flyglobespan when AC pulled out)
Air Canada have been loaded back into Chroma Fusion (MAN airlines management/arrivals systems)
AC840 arrives 08:05 daily with B767-300
AC841 departs 09:35 daily with B767-300
Will be good if these guys come back, as airlines on the YYZ route seem to have diminished back to a managable level again (basically just TS this year compared to TCX/TS/Flyglobespan when AC pulled out)
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: N Yorkshire, UK
Age: 76
Posts: 484
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Cyprus Airways MAN - PFO
PZU,
when were you due to travel? and was this booked as a flight only with Cyprus Airways?
HXDave
Confirm online booking with Cyprus Airways for flights in April 2011
PZU - Out of Africa (Retired)
when were you due to travel? and was this booked as a flight only with Cyprus Airways?
HXDave
Confirm online booking with Cyprus Airways for flights in April 2011
PZU - Out of Africa (Retired)
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: manchester
Posts: 526
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
So definetly no TCX this year? Still on the booking engine? Nice to have a non-charter airline though
Theres also supposed to be a 2 weekly Monarch flight to Toronto, but I cant seem to find that one either.
Theres nothing on the Air Canada website, only the update in chroma so far. Thats updated daily so must be a reason why its been put in there.
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: London (Babylon-on-Thames)
Age: 42
Posts: 6,168
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
So its perfectly timed for now.....is that what you are saying?
Last edited by Skipness One Echo; 13th Jan 2011 at 17:06.
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 355
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The Canadian Affairs web site still show the TCX flights to YYZ for summer 2011 in addition to the TS flights. I don't know whether these will operate or not because the TS flights were supposed to replace them. The TCX flights are not available through Thomas Cook as they have in previous years and therefore I don't believe they will operate.
The Monarch flights start in November and are available through Canadian Affairs.
The flights seem to operate MAN-YYZ-GLA-YYZ-MAN
The Monarch flights start in November and are available through Canadian Affairs.
The flights seem to operate MAN-YYZ-GLA-YYZ-MAN
The Canadian Affair schedule seems to be a bit of a mess this year. Yes, the web-site still shows both TCX & TS operating to YYZ, but you can't reserve a specific seat on a TCX YYZ flight. However, they sent me a revised printed brochure 2 weeks ago, with a revised schedule showing no TCX flights to YYZ at all. Just TS daily exc Wed.
Which for me has put me off booking. A 35" pitch on TCX is good, but it looks like you would be consolidated onto the TS A330/A310 with a 32" pitch.
So, I'm going to hold off to see if AC go on sale. Having said that, don't they apply for slots every year-but never operate? MON are operating Gatwick & a Brirmingham 757 to YYZ during the summer. It does not refer to a winter schedule.
Which for me has put me off booking. A 35" pitch on TCX is good, but it looks like you would be consolidated onto the TS A330/A310 with a 32" pitch.
So, I'm going to hold off to see if AC go on sale. Having said that, don't they apply for slots every year-but never operate? MON are operating Gatwick & a Brirmingham 757 to YYZ during the summer. It does not refer to a winter schedule.
Last edited by Mr A Tis; 13th Jan 2011 at 17:44.
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 2,069
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Personally, if I was booking YYZ for the summer in the next few weeks I'd either book Affair or look at other scheduled carriers via LHR, AMS, CDG etc.
As said above, AC apply every year so until it's announced I wouldn't hold off on anything. Having said that, the system is not usually updated with AC schedules so I suppose we await an announcement! It would fit in if LH and Star are focusing on MAN as a UK gateway.
Surely the extra 3" can't stop you booking with another carrier? Although 35" is fantastic for Y, if TOM don't operate 32" is the best you're going to get with any carrier!
Unless TOM look Canada's way...
As said above, AC apply every year so until it's announced I wouldn't hold off on anything. Having said that, the system is not usually updated with AC schedules so I suppose we await an announcement! It would fit in if LH and Star are focusing on MAN as a UK gateway.
Surely the extra 3" can't stop you booking with another carrier? Although 35" is fantastic for Y, if TOM don't operate 32" is the best you're going to get with any carrier!
Unless TOM look Canada's way...
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Manchester
Posts: 891
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
In the 8Os.& 90s there used to be loads of Canadian charter flights, Wardair 707s, DC10s & 747s, CPair DC8s & DC10s, Laker DC10s and a multitude of other operators (wordways is the only one I can remember the name of)
Anyway my question is, why only a few flights a week now ? Have all the friends and relatives died off now ?
Anyway my question is, why only a few flights a week now ? Have all the friends and relatives died off now ?
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 2,069
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From what I can gather there are a number of reasons.
Firstly, the industry, rightly so, has far more red tape than it used to. I know of my great grandparents chartering a number of aircraft 40-odd years ago to take them, family, friends and others to the other side of the pond and they did so from their living room. Not for profit, simply as a means for all to get across to the other side. They were also far from well off. It is now pretty illegal for me now to ring up say Astraeus, ask for one of their 757s to take me along with a hundred others I could sell tickets to to YYZ in August. Even if I didn't make a penny profit.
Secondly, as you say, links get lost. Family members die and ties deteriorate sadly.
Finally, and what I believe is most important. It's just as cheap, maybe cheaper, to book on the dozens of other options available to all to get to Canada from the UK. AC, LH, BA, VS, AF, KL, US, AA, UA/CO, DL etc etc can all take me there anytime of the year for a reasonable fare both at the front and back of cabin.
As you say, times change.
Firstly, the industry, rightly so, has far more red tape than it used to. I know of my great grandparents chartering a number of aircraft 40-odd years ago to take them, family, friends and others to the other side of the pond and they did so from their living room. Not for profit, simply as a means for all to get across to the other side. They were also far from well off. It is now pretty illegal for me now to ring up say Astraeus, ask for one of their 757s to take me along with a hundred others I could sell tickets to to YYZ in August. Even if I didn't make a penny profit.
Secondly, as you say, links get lost. Family members die and ties deteriorate sadly.
Finally, and what I believe is most important. It's just as cheap, maybe cheaper, to book on the dozens of other options available to all to get to Canada from the UK. AC, LH, BA, VS, AF, KL, US, AA, UA/CO, DL etc etc can all take me there anytime of the year for a reasonable fare both at the front and back of cabin.
As you say, times change.
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: crawley
Age: 74
Posts: 512
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Change of Subject The world is not just Canada
Anyone know what was happening on Stand 12 with EK 777 Tonight
LOts of Blue Lights/Emergency vehicles??
Also heard Fly Be will have 1 E195 // 1 E175 // 7 DH 8 for the Summer any confirmation ?
LOts of Blue Lights/Emergency vehicles??
Also heard Fly Be will have 1 E195 // 1 E175 // 7 DH 8 for the Summer any confirmation ?
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 2,069
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Learjet50,
You're right. The world is not just Canada but let's have a bit of respect for posters eh? Topics come up and posts are dominated by them. It's how it works - discussion.
You'll see that someone will reply to your questions as have been done with the Canada ones. Be respectful.
EK incident sounds like criminal/medical but I'm sure someone will asnwer your question.
Will certainly be interesting where BE places their E175s and on what routes.
Anyone heard anything about the appearing rumours on double daily A380 services from Spring?
You're right. The world is not just Canada but let's have a bit of respect for posters eh? Topics come up and posts are dominated by them. It's how it works - discussion.
You'll see that someone will reply to your questions as have been done with the Canada ones. Be respectful.
EK incident sounds like criminal/medical but I'm sure someone will asnwer your question.
Will certainly be interesting where BE places their E175s and on what routes.
Anyone heard anything about the appearing rumours on double daily A380 services from Spring?
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: manchester
Posts: 526
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
So, I'm going to hold off to see if AC go on sale. Having said that, don't they apply for slots every year-but never operate
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Manchester
Posts: 134
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
CAA figures are out for December...
UK Airport Provisional Statistics: 2010 - 12 | Aviation Intelligence | Economic Regulation confirming the 1.9% growth.
Some airports are shedding passengers VERY fast.
UK Airport Provisional Statistics: 2010 - 12 | Aviation Intelligence | Economic Regulation confirming the 1.9% growth.
Some airports are shedding passengers VERY fast.