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Old 3rd Oct 2010, 23:02
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I do tend to agree....... MAN doesn't want FR back particularly after what happened last time.

In terms of passengers, it doesn't matter whether they are business or leisure. Excellent citations re: business and first class capacity out of MAN these days but a good deal of that traffic won't be business related and we should remember that, there are some very affluent areas on MAN's door step after all. To the airport itself though, business travellers probably don't spend as much as many would have us believe. On the forum of another website is a guy spouting about how AF will be deterring it's business travellers by moving to T3 due to lack of ammenities. In actual fact it is probably the charter and leisure passengers who are the ones who spend at the airport. Even in this day and age the airport experience is part of the holiday to many so people will often eat there, buy shed loads of magazines for the 2 hour flight to PMI aswell as buying tax free etc etc
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Old 3rd Oct 2010, 23:12
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In actual fact it is probably the charter and leisure passengers who are the ones who spend at the airport.
Spot on from my observations.
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I wasn`t actually talking about what they would spend at the airport but what they spend to fly

I wouldn`t dream of going shopping at the airport unless I had forgotten something or just to buy a magazine or such as I am fed up with carrying one bag let alone a couple of carrier bags full of overpriced goods which I could get on the high street.

I don`t mind who I fly with as long as I am well looked after and not charged a rate that is over the odds
Have flown to France many times with most of the carriers that have operated over the years from MAN. AF/LS/BE/BA BA dumped us at Paris one trip luckily AF picked up the pieces and got us back, LS had an aircraft go tech but after telling everybody they were going to fly to Blackpool managed to find an aircraft from somewhere and as we boarded the aircraft then told we were going direct to Manchester and arrived only about 50 mins late.


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Old 4th Oct 2010, 12:15
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Highest spending on-airport pax are charter pax travelling to either Turkey or Egypt.

Dixons sell at a genuine tax free price. Take the high street Currys/PC World price and remove 17.5%. I’ve bought all my iPods from there; better than anything on-line!
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Hi all

Just heard some possible upcoming terminal changes. Can they be confirmed?

Easyjet from T3 to T2 (with upto 10 aircraft to be based)
bMI from T3 to T1 (to tie with lufthansa/star alliance)
Airfrance from T1 to T3 (for the Flybe codeshare and skyteam)
Delta from T2 to T3 (for skyteam with afklm)
Possible KLM from T2 to T3 (for above reason)
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Old 4th Oct 2010, 15:29
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ACC, whilst your point proves my point re: leisure pax spending habits, one caveat is that obviously Turkey and Egypt are non EU and therefore the sales of cigarettes and spirits will increase spend. So I would imagine.

Slapdash8.... interesting rumours. Where have you heard that? Easyjet to T2 would certainly remove any issues re: an increasingly congested T3 ramp. Most, if not all, Easy aircraft will be leaving just as the inbound transatlantics are arriving and it also provides some flow of flights ex T2 during the quieter afternoon/evening times.

Taxi times would be a little bit longer mind.
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Old 4th Oct 2010, 15:57
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So the BE tie-up has meant AF are moving and I would assume that it is only right to think that DL and KL will follow suit. Remember the whole point of the TATL is to share such things (I assume DL use AF check-in etc already at T2?), besides, if I'm not mistaken AF/KL are owned by the same company!

U2 wouldn't surprise me however I would have guessed at T1, mainly for what is mentioned above concerning taxi times etc.

BMI is almost a given.

So T3 would be there for BE, AF, KL, DL, AA, BA, FI and the smaller carriers?
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Old 4th Oct 2010, 16:32
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But to be fair taxi times at certain points of T1 are just aslong. Also,increased taxi times for departures from 23L and 04L and arrivals on 23R are minimal IMO.
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Old 4th Oct 2010, 18:49
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September Stats

Sept Pax - 1,932,253 down 1.59%
12m ending 30.09.10 - 17,801,832 down 8.04%

Sept Movements - 15,489 down 4.22%

Freight - 9,337 up 7.35%
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Old 5th Oct 2010, 19:46
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One of the worst kept secrets regarding AA at MAN has just been made official. JFK route ran may-sept on a seasonal basis this year, but next year sees it go year round:

Flight:AA 211 (American Airlines) Depart:Manchester3 Oct 11:10Arrive:New York J F Kennedy International Apt3 Oct 13:55Aircraft:757Stops:Non-StopClick Here for DetailsTravel Time:7hrs 45mins

The dates used are October 2011 and the engine is OAG timetable, as the AA booking engine only goes as far as August 2011 for all flights so far.

ORD also remains year round next year with B757, same as this year.

Good news, so I wonder if any new UK stations will be added tomorrow?
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Old 6th Oct 2010, 11:22
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A.net forum is suggesting AA will announce ORD-BHX today, and UA will announce ORD-MAN very soon.
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Old 6th Oct 2010, 13:31
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Flew from ATL overnight on sunday with delta. Passengers were asked to swop to ATL-DUB- MAN or ATL-LHR-MAN with a $200 premium for doing so as the flight was overbooked. The DUB aircraft was parked next door stand A2 and seemed relitivly empty [767]. The LHR flight also did not seem to be well supported this was parked on stand A4[777].
On arrival in MAN 50 mins early due to strong tailwinds we were waiting for 40 mins to get on stand with engines running.
No problems with luggage or immigration well done all at MAN.

Thanks Sparkysam and family
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Old 6th Oct 2010, 17:50
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This may have been mentioned before but having just been looking at the airports timetable apparently from yesterday 05/10/10 - 06/10/11 there is a twice weekly service with Biman Bangladesh Airlines to Dhaka does this actually operate? I'm confused!
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Old 6th Oct 2010, 18:17
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Well I didn't see it.

Anyone else?
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Old 6th Oct 2010, 19:00
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It's one to look out for next year when they get hold of another 777.
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Old 6th Oct 2010, 19:43
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For the spotters who roam, Etihad are operating an A340-600 on Friday
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Old 6th Oct 2010, 20:39
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Easyjet from T3 to T2 (with upto 10 aircraft to be based)
bMI from T3 to T1 (to tie with lufthansa/star alliance)
Airfrance from T1 to T3 (for the Flybe codeshare and skyteam)
Delta from T2 to T3 (for skyteam with afklm)
Possible KLM from T2 to T3 (for above reason)

Can confirm AirFrance will be operating out of T3 from the 31st of October

will confirm the rest once it breaks, but it would be only reasonable to assume the moves would be correct to accomodate the Skyteam flights.
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Old 6th Oct 2010, 20:43
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from October 31st Air France will be operating from T3, as for the rest no news as yet but it would seem a logical move to accommodate skyteam etc
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Old 6th Oct 2010, 21:44
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Etihad A340-600 on Friday

...and I will be on it! Thanks for the information, I just assumed it would be a 777.

I'm just off to pack my bags and make my way to SYD for the long journey to MAN.
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Old 6th Oct 2010, 22:34
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Re: T3 it would indeed be logical for atleast KL to move to T3. There are obviously synegies involved hence why they first moved to T2 to be with AF. Would it make real sense to move the entire alliance? I'm not sure.

U2 have stated that they would like to remain in T3 but are worried what the impact of AF's move will have on terminal/ramp capacity....particularly as they are expanding the number of based aircraft.
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