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Old 3rd Sep 2011, 20:40
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...Route news in the M E N has been a work of fiction for years !
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Old 4th Sep 2011, 02:49
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SN146 Hi,

I believe it could be for Air Australia,previously Strategic Airlines.AGC or VC.Their first 332 was sourced from SWISS.

Lime twist in tail of rebranded airline Air Australia | The Australian
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Old 5th Sep 2011, 08:37
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AY, KL, AF and LH all offer MAN pax Chinese markets and compete with BA via LON. Likes of AY offer shortest journey while KL now serves 5 cities in China.
Going out to Hong Kong on Weds with AY. Looked at Emirates mainly for airmiles on my frequent flyer card. Travel time as flight goes from DXB via BKK is really long, 20 -24 hrs toatl with layover. Cheapest fare with realistic time was £1200. AY with total flight time 14hrs fare was down at £690. OK company pays but thats a big saving.
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Old 5th Sep 2011, 08:54
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Yup, I'm headin Shanghai / HKG in a few weeks. the Gulf routes add at least 4 hours to the trip & mean a stupid o'clock plane change- and cost more to boot. So please people don't keep sayin the gulf boys have these routes covered-they haven't. I use Swisss or Luftie & AY is def the quickest.
With one of the largest Chinese communities in Europe, there is scope for a pax / combi service. I presume the main reason CX shy away is to protect their LHR operation. So, I hope MA are getting cosy with Air China or more likely China Eastern.
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Old 5th Sep 2011, 09:32
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I'm off to HKG again on Thu. Current routing for my 5 trips a year is to LGW thence to LHR. Used to route through MAN and shuttle to LHR for a while, but BA's enthusiasm for cancelling domestics at the first sign of LHR overload (low viz, snow, ATC failure etc etc) put me off. Looking at AY for my Nov trip but concerned at 35 min connection in HEL. Would never consider routing via the Gulf.

Would indeed welcome a direct MAN/HKG routing, even at a small premium.
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Old 5th Sep 2011, 09:38
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Haven't a clue

Current routing for my 5 trips a year is to LGW thence to LHR.
I'd be fascinated to see which airline this is with............


but BA's enthusiasm for cancelling domestics
Seems to lack a certain logic.

PS I use BA MAN - LHR twice a week (for 14 years) and have no qualms at all - I'm on the 1403 this afternoon............
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Old 5th Sep 2011, 09:53
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ETOPS - Good spot! Especially as the helo connection is sadly history.

You must be lucky with shuttle reliability. Last year I sat in T5 while the first wave of snow came down and watched the domestics vanish from the board; earlier that year (or maybe the year before) Swannage radar failed for a while, and again the domestics vanished. A year or so earlier I was on board shuttle whose starter failed - I ended up on a later flight and on the 0215 boat home - not my best travel experience! I must be a Jonah.
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Old 5th Sep 2011, 10:12
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You must be flying on odd days as I fly this route on a frequent basis (approx 6 times a year). Outbound EK020 to DXB and then EK380 to HKG direct, return EK381 and good old EKO17 back to Man. Total flying time approx 14.30hrs outbound and 15.30 return but no stop in BKK. You do have the DXB two step but never found it an issue, and it does break the journey a bit. Used to fly CX when they did the Man HKG route with a Paris stop I think it was. However now no route, and my experiance with CX recently in the far east has been on par with BA. Therfore avoid if possible.
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Old 5th Sep 2011, 13:06
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HKG

i have flown CX when it served MAN, but then after the service was dropped.. i went via FRA, AMS, DXB, and LHR.
I am due to fly to hkg in nov and its only taking me under 15hrs including transit time in cdg.
I remember last winter when it was the cold snap in december, there were two CX flights that were redirected to MAN cos of the closure of LHR bound for hkg. surely manchester would be able to cope with the CX 744's again or even a 773 if they came back to MAN. There is a sizeable chinese community up north and by coming back, it saves the hassle of going via LHR.
i thought a while ago there were talks of man-zur-hkg, what happened to that?
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Old 5th Sep 2011, 13:06
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August 2011 up 3.62%

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Old 5th Sep 2011, 21:26
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R.E. China Routes...

I have a friend that works at MAN and he has told me that China Cargo Airlines is coming into MAN with a charter flight on the 20th/21st (one of those days) Sep and have put a tender out for POSSIBLE scheduled flights. I know this is freight rather than pax, but who knows...maybe it'll lead to pax flights too.

My friend said that the charter is for pigs of all things...although another friend of mine has sent pigs out on a couple of Great Wall flights...if I remember rightly.

Anyway...China Cargo Airlines is the freight arm of China Eastern I think so maybe that's a where a pax link to China may come from.

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Old 6th Sep 2011, 23:46
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Saw what I thought was an Il-76 on the ramp at MAN today.

Was interested to know, if my eyes were correct, what it was doing. Presumably AOG or AID related?
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Old 7th Sep 2011, 06:48
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Your eyes are correct. It was RA-76950 operating flight VDA4802.
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Old 7th Sep 2011, 08:06
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Insider News North West

Originally Posted by Insider Media Limited
Laurie Berryman, the UK vice-president for airline Emirates, has hailed the success of the carrier's A380 service from Manchester to Dubai, one year on from its launch.
He said: "I’m delighted to say we’ve exceeded expectations in every way. Running first class for the first time from Manchester was a step into the unknown for us but little did we know in September 2011 that within a year we’d be running a third daily flight. Manchester can be justly proud of being one of the first airports to run A380 flights."
Berryman said that Emirates flew 33,000 passengers in July from Manchester, up 15 per cent year-on-year. He added that cargo is performing well: "Cargo tends to be the Cinderella of aviation, but it’s vital for us – we’ve seen a 44 per cent increase since the introduction of the third service. The demand is there for freight."
He remains optimistic, despite nagging concerns over oil prices and Airport Passenger Duty: "Passengers in the UK pay 12-15 times more than in Europe. We’ve done all the lobbying we can. There needs to be more balance because aviation is a driver of economic growth."
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Old 7th Sep 2011, 08:45
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Thanks for the confirmation of the Il-76.

Have since been told that a sick TCX machine at Montego Bay might be the reason behind the flight.
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Old 7th Sep 2011, 13:09
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ILS crossing today

I'm at the viewing park at the moment and when the emirates A380 was on approx. 5m final 23R, i saw an aircraft crossing the ILS perpendicular from the South to the North at about 3000ft. Any ideas? This was at about 1310

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Old 7th Sep 2011, 13:12
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China Cargo Airlines is coming into MAN with a charter flight on the 20th/21st (one of those days) Sep
It is indeed Wednesday 21st. Comes in from AMS at 16:00 and out again at 17:25 as CKK8762.
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Old 7th Sep 2011, 13:43
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Re ILS crossing today

TOM and EZY crossed ILS and looped back, presumably for spacing after the A380.
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Old 7th Sep 2011, 15:50
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Thanks, thought I saw a TOM!
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Old 7th Sep 2011, 15:53
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Not due spacing but due weather. Quite a few hefty storms around. Had us holding at Trent on the way up with a few others due Dayne having bad weather.
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