MANCHESTER - 8

[Curious Pax]

2016 according to the roadsigns. Going to be a long 4 years if you need to drive in the area!

[j636]

Ryanair boss reveals expansion plans | Manchester Evening News - menmedia.co.uk

MAN base unlighlty to grow above 4 aircraft for winter 2012/13 but expect 6 for summer 2013.

[roverman]

CATHAY B747-8F

Cathay have taken delivery of their first B747-8F. Although expected to serve the Pacific routes at first, we can't rule out the Jolly Green Giant making a debut at MAN some time soon. Stand 73 is ready, and works to configure taxiway November (roadways) are well advanced. Bring it on.

[spannersatcx]

No plans for the -8 to serve Europe so unlikely to see it at MAN. Maybe 777F when they arrive.

[Cloud1]

Jet from Manchester slides off runway in Munich

Jet from Manchester slides off runway in Munich
BBC News - Jet from Manchester slides off runway in Munich

[TSR2]

Jet from Manchester slides off runway in Munich

Has been extensively discussed in R&N since lunchtime.

[DomyDom]

Good to see the new Monarch routes. Steady as she goes as has already been said. Verona is an interesting additon to MANs route network as this is an attractive city with a superb ancient roman open air Opera arena with a great opera festival every summer. Great food and vineyards in the surrounding area also. I think this route will do well eventually all year round as it also caters for the skiing market in the winter. Good luck and well done Monarch.

DomyDom

[j636]

Every Airport's Worst Nightmare - 50 Michael O'Learys

What ever gave Ryanair the idea?

[PPRuNeUser0176]

Aeroflot Russian Airlines have applied and recived government approval to operate MAN - Moscow. Up to 7 weekly flights.

[MKY661]

Do we know the type of aircraft and what terminal they use yet? (Probably an A320 and T1)

[PPRuNeUser0176]

A320 dosn't mean that it will happon. They have being granted approval for a number of routes.

[Manchester Kurt]

http://www.manchesterairport.co.uk/m...tisticsArchive

Up 2.83% in Oct 2011.

[MKY661]

A320 dosn't mean that it will happon. They have being granted approval for a number of routes.

It would be nice to see some Aeroflot at MAN. Lets hope they start it.

[delta154]

Aeroflot Russian Airlines have applied and recived government approval to operate MAN - Moscow. Up to 7 weekly flights

Even though they got rights for 7 flights, Id expect them to come in at 2-3 weekly to start with. The 7 weekly is just something they can expand into if the route performs well.

Lets just hope they use the rights now, seems to be a trend at MAN where carriers are granted rights (examples being China Airlines and Royal Brunei), but for one reason or another, never use them (and likely never to use them)

[Shed-on-a-Pole]

It is interesting to note that Aeroflot needed to reapply for rights. I'm old enough to remember SU249/SU250. Did some great flights on those old TU154's!

[One Sixty until 4.]

Re: Aeroflot

If I recall correctly, wasn't the AFL operation operation geared up to capture the ex-pat Pakistani community market from across the North and Midlands? But as PIA ramped up direct flights from MAN, AFL dropped out.

The market seems even tighter today, with PIA and Air Blue serving various Pakistan airports along with EK, EY and QR all taking a share of the loads from MAN and other Northern/regional airports.

I would love to see AFL back, but wonder how the figures stack up to justify the route now. We struggle to have mainline services to many more obvious European destinations, so a route to Russia seems very left field.

P.S. The IL62s were much better!

[Ian Brooks]

Yes IL-62 were great if very noisey
The market to Russia has changed quite a bit since the old Aeroflot days as
have Aeroflot


Ian B

[Mr A Tis]

...and when CX applied for HKG-MOSCOW-MAN a couple of years back, wasn't it BMI that objected because they hold MOSCOW-MAN rights?
ie plenty of airlines get/own rights, but never intend to operate them

[LN-KGL]

Mr A Tis, it's not that much the city pair rights that limit what can be offered - the number over flying rights over Russian territory is the real bottle neck.

[delta154]

I would love to see AFL back, but wonder how the figures stack up to justify the route now.

Maybe Aeroflot could do what Finnair advertise, and be 'the quick way to Asia'.
Also, whilst admittedly it wouldn't be a huge market, Aeroflot opens up quicker flights to places like Chisnau, Ashgabat and the Russian market in General.

We struggle to have mainline services to many more obvious European destinations, so a route to Russia seems very left field

Frankly, I think the MAN network has improved a lot of late. Going to be a bit of a long winded post to show it, but, major city wise and mainline carriers, we have:

Oslo, Stockholm, Copenhagen and Bergen on SAS
Madrid on Iberia
Lisbon on TAP
Frankfurt, Düsseldorf, Munich, Hamburg and Stuttgart on Lufthansa
Zurich, Geneva and Basle on Swiss
Gothenburg on City Airline
Billund and London on BA (high yield so I count it)
Helsinki on Finnair
Paris and Antwerp on Air France
Lyon on bmi
Ljubniana on Adria
Amsterdam on KLM
Brussels on SN
Munich on Singapore Airlines
Istanbul on Turkish

And without being snobby and realising Low cost carriers are a viable alternative, we have:

Athens, Amsterdam, Bilbao Munich, Zurich, Geneva, Copenhagen, Berlin, Madrid on Easyjet
Milan, Hannover, Paris on Flybe
Milan, Paris, Rome, Talinn on Ryanair
Istanbul, Budapest, Paris, Prague, Nice, Pisa, Rome, Tel Aviv, Barcelona on Jet2
Cologne on Germanwings
Olso on Norwegian
Barcelona, Milan, Venice, Verona on Monarch

So, aside from maybe Vienna, Bucharest and Warsaw, where exactly does MAN lack so much?