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Old 17th Jul 2011, 08:34
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Off the RYR news (Good or Bad)Not sure

Heardfrom Rumour control that MON are now not moving to T2 becasue
they cannot be guaranteed an Airbridge stand in the mornings.

I know no one is guaranteed an Airbrridge stand at any Terminal but MON seem to nearly always get one at T!

This apparantley means EZY will remain in T3

Understand EZY not happy and together with the RYR invasion willl they continue there Increase in Based A/C

Rumour control also said they are Taking some LPL a/c and moving them to Man

Any Feedback ???

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Old 17th Jul 2011, 10:20
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RYR won't be self-maneouvring. MAN policy is taxi-in-push-out, except for:

Stands 100/101 which are specially designed as taxi-through.

Rare types for which there is no tow-bar (must be remote, though)

Tow bar u/s (remote)

'Push and Park' procedure, awaiting slot, where the stand is suitably configured with blast screens, however this requires a tug to position the aircraft facing nose out.
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Old 17th Jul 2011, 10:57
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Heard from Rumor control that MON are now not moving to T2 because they cannot be guaranteed an Airbridge stand in the mornings.
I believe that most MON flights are to operate from remote stands. As I understand it, MON were given a very good deal to accept this situation.
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Old 17th Jul 2011, 11:16
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I believe that most MON flights are to operate from remote stands. As I understand it, MON were given a very good deal to accept this situation.
That's what I heard too, plus wouldn't TOM get priority on airbridge stands anyway? Seeing as though they cant just be pushed out because of a newcomer to T2
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Old 17th Jul 2011, 16:25
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Terminal changes

Would it not be feasable to get all the Star Alliance together into T3 ( BMI, CO, SIA, SK, LH, LX, TP & US ) ? Thus leaving plenty of room in T2 for Spotty M & room in T1 for Easy. Flybe would make a good feeder for Star Alliance too in T3 making for easier transfer pax.......and when (if) T1 & T3 get rejoined One World ( BA, AY, AA, EI ) can enjoy T1 check in.
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Old 17th Jul 2011, 18:21
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Re Rovermans post

Roverman

Thanks for your reply re the Airport Policy re Self manouvering stand which is what i understood was the case.

However they are dealing with MOL

I would expect policies will be changing shortly to accomadate the MOL Request as he always seems to get what he wants before siging agreements with Airports we shall wait and see howver I cant see the other Airlines liking it if it does happen.

Whats the Airports Policy on Power backs of stand do ypu know??

Can Manchester really supply enough pax for 3 Lo cost Airlines plus of course MON *(Semi Low cost) only time will tell

How long before the Airort is Re Named MOLCHESTER AIRPORT ??

Intresting times ahead


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Old 17th Jul 2011, 21:47
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Powerbacks

Gerry,

Couldn't find the policy on powerbacks in the Aerodrome Manual, but I do know that these are only allowed off remote stands and even then not on a planned basis, only when a pushback is not possible for some reason and under carefully controlled conditions. At one time years ago the regular Saudi C130s used to power back off the 60s, and there was a trial with J41s too, which resulted in the present policy after the noise and prop wash proved hazardous along the piers.
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Old 17th Jul 2011, 22:58
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MON/ZB are not re-considering a move to T2 from what I hear, whether they get airbridges or not is not an issue, and even now at T1 many of their services are remote or B-pier steps.

EZY are still moving to T1 as planned, and show no signs of dissatisfaction with MAN - indeed, quite the opposite.

Another terminal move to keep an eye on is KLM to T3 to join AF which is strongly rumoured to be in the pipeline.
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Old 20th Jul 2011, 21:24
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Looks like the new management are changing the previous strategy on acquisitions and going back to the core business - concentrating the expertise and resources on MAN as well as the other MAG airports.

Some would say about time too.

Manchester Airports Group cools on BAA airports | Manchester Evening News - menmedia.co.uk

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Old 22nd Jul 2011, 05:52
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"Another terminal move to keep an eye on is KLM to T3 to join AF which is strongly rumoured to be in the pipeline"

Will happen between Nov-March.............i know as im planning it..
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Hole in runway

Talk about a dunce airport! Fuel wasted yesterday due holding while 05L could not be used due to a hole being left after maintenance. This has happened recently before at MAN. No further comment
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Old 22nd Jul 2011, 16:11
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Mr Bloggs -

Mistakes can and do occur in ALL large and complex organizations which are run by human beings; Manchester Airport is no exception. It is one of the reasons why runway inspections are deemed necessary and are carried out regularly. Is it not more constructive to acknowledge the professionalism of those who spotted this problem before safety was compromised? I do not have first-hand knowledge of whether this particular hole was spotted by airport ops staff or aircrew, but well done either way. And as for fuel wastage, this is regrettable, but would you rather depart from an unsafe runway or burn some extra fuel whilst necessary repairs are carried out? Every airport makes mistakes; the good ones rectify them before safety is compromised.

Unserviceabilities - especially during WIP - are inevitable in any airport operation. Let's keep matters in perspective please.
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Old 22nd Jul 2011, 17:47
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Well said Shed. Big runway resurfacing project presently underway so well done to those who keep the runway safe.

Anyways don't lots of aircraft "waste" fuel holding at Heathrow when there's no hole in their runways.
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Old 22nd Jul 2011, 20:29
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Come on!

Shed, I sat at 'T' and watched (and reported) a big chunk of 23L tarmac get blown out and back by a departing mid-size jet. This within the last 2 years. Now as any fool knows, we don't use max thrust, nor even high thrust while stabilizing our engines at the first stage of take-off. What I am suggesting is shoddy workmanship. As in all 3 terminals and the taxiways.

Safety is not an issue. ATC are as good as it gets at MAN. But the airport is rubbish, when compared to many other first-line European, U.S, and Canadian international airports. From experience, both current and past.

The problem here is that many people see the need to 'defend' the place. Hardly anybody points out its numerous flaws. What is your problem people? This should be a much better airport, from immigration, police, security, car parks, terminal buildings, taxiways, and runways. The traffic jams due to a badly designed airport are more than frustrating, despite the best eforts of "Ground". Not their fault. But MAN is rubbish. Yes, I live close by and have to work there. It's not an easy matter to uproot bases, considering family and opportunities. But I have every right to complain. Grow up, you juveniles who "support" the place. It is not a football team, not even Stockport County.
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Old 22nd Jul 2011, 20:45
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for all the people who complain and moan about the airport, just remember that the airport was there alot longer than most people, and will be when most people are dead and buried or cremated... if people dont like living around the airport, then do the obvious thing and move away to a church... all airports around the world are getting more and more flights, so we have to live with it....Also those people who complain, i bet they dont complain when their wizzing down the runway and flying away on their hols........
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Old 23rd Jul 2011, 10:12
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Mr Bloggs
if you wish to make comments please qoute all the facts.
The vast majority of holding was caused by an inbond acft declaring a Mayday and not by a hole in the rwy
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Old 23rd Jul 2011, 10:30
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Grow Up

Pleazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzze Mr Hudd grow up. We know you love Gatwick & that's your perogative.
I have a list as long as your arm where things at Manchester can be improved. I've had some lousy experiences here at MAN but equally many many first class experiences from start to finish.
However, I've also had some pretty bad experiences at your "first line" airports like JFK, Toronto, Vancouver ( 90 mins immigration followed by 180 mins baggage), Munich & the dreadful Frankfurt, Atlanta ( 45 minutes for a gate followed by 2hours at immigration) I could go on.
The point is ANY airport on ANY given day can be total rubbish, but on another the same airport will be a breeze for everyone concerned.
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Old 23rd Jul 2011, 12:32
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Mr Bloggs

I was going to pass comment but then I noticed where
your location was and decided not to bother........

MM
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MM re Mr Bloggs

Totally agree with your comments re Mr Bloggs

It says it all

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Old 25th Jul 2011, 21:51
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UAE20 cancelled 25/07/11

Friends from cricket club were due to go on their honeymoon to Sydney tonight and their first leg flight on UAE20 to DXB has just been cancelled!

Can anyone shed any light on the reason behind this? The aircraft apparently arrived a little late and he said only 15 mins ago they were refuelling the aircraft.
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