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Old 11th Jul 2011, 00:50
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So does this mean EZY may base a A320 here
An A320 has been planned for about 2-3 years now, however due to the downturn in travel in the last year or 2 it was put on hold, we might see one appear next year for summer..

This may or may not be true, but apparently EZYs plans for expansion at BFS are running 1-2 years behind schedule, so wouldn't surprise me if we see some new routes next year

but Athens??? Currently only LGW, MAN and EDI have Athens flights from EZY
Why not, KRK and MLA are destinations only available direct from about 5-7 airports, so dont see why Athens couldn't be a potential.. for summer anyway..

Torque2, thanks for the info, never heard about that change
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Is ADB being dropped from Bfs by TCX? It does not seem to be on sale for S12. If true, a pity as it was a very good alternative to Turkey.

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TB, haven't any info on that but summer 2012 flying prog is nowhere near ready yet. TCX group never have anything like the final program agreed until around the end of August so it could go either way.

If the loads are anything to go by it has been a good route over the past 2 years so it stands a good chance of remaining.
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Old 11th Jul 2011, 14:44
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If anyone need any Easyjet Flightplans, briefing packages, positioning flights or anything else give me a shout
No disrespect david, as I dont know easyjets in house procedures, but, are you allowed to freely give this information away? Im just making sure your back is covered.
Certainly in the airline I work for, if I gave away any breifing packages, flight plans or internal info in general, to the public, Id be pulled in instantly, and most probably given the boot?

There was also a case where a cabin crew member at Virgin was sacked for putting their safety manual on ebay.
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If anyone need any Easyjet Flightplans, briefing packages, positioning flights or anything else give me a shout
Posts like this should be left to spotters websites.

This thread has decayed into trivia.

That's me done with it.
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Old 12th Jul 2011, 23:16
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aer arann

with aer aranns PSO routes finishing this month, meaning free aircraft is there a possibility they would commences services to routes lost when bmibaby moved i.e. birmingham and cardiff? also when they left belfast city their reason was due to lack of aircraft to carry on the route and promised they would be back to reinstate flights to cork when aircraft once again became available...

could we see them at the international airport soon??
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BHD2BFS,

Surely they would be more likely to return to BHD - but competing against BE? Really don't think they have the marketing clout to take on their much bigger rivals - what advantage do they have in terms of a/c? Nowt methinks.
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The provisional CAA statistics are out for June. To note that with Easyjet LTN back at Aldergrove, passengers rose from 14530 at BHD to 19683 at BFS. This is in addition to a 7% rise for BFS-LGW and a 10% rise fro BFS-STN. Seems that consolidating London routes at BFS has worked well for Easyjet.

EI lost 2% on LHR, while BD lost 17% from BHD!! Seems a bit steep, had they reduced frequencies or smaller aircraft usage??

Not had a good look through the other figures just yet.
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while BD lost 17% from BHD!! Seems a bit steep, had they reduced frequencies or smaller aircraft usage??
Using RJ145's for some of the weekend flights from BHD
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I think there were around a dozen or so EI LHR sectors that didn't operate in June, not sure whether they were never scheduled or just cancelled, but there certainly wasn't four rotations a day, everyday, all month. I was on one recently, at a guess there was around 140-150 odd on it.
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I think there were around a dozen or so EI LHR sectors that didn't operate in June, not sure whether they were never scheduled or just cancelled, but there certainly wasn't four rotations a day, everyday, all month. I was on one recently, at a guess there was around 140-150 odd on it.
Correct, there was some flights that didn't operate, mainly occured Tues, Wed, Thurs

BFS has finally added some pictures of the new catering outlets... not on their website ( a strange move), but their FB page for those interested, look below.. someone has already asked about the arrivals cafe and the viewing gallery, the response

Yes the arrivals cafe bar will be next to be refurbished. As for the viewing gallery, it is currently out of use as it is in the airside ...area of the airport. We are looking at ways as to how we can reuse the space, however not sure yet if it will become accessible to the general public because of its location airside.
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In case anyone was wondering, Cityjet and Titan running 3 round trips between them to Lourdes today having positioned from Dublin and Stansted respectively. They'll return to base this evening, information is on the BIA departure board.
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if easyjet or jet2.com are not going to take up the routes lost by the bmibaby move, why doesn't the airport try to entice ryanair to launch these routes plus they could also give us flights to prestwick, and at a long shot possibly doncaster or humberside, at the end of the day if a deal is made they dont have to be a threat to easy or jet2. or is there something in the pipe work we do not know about, although i see this very unlikely as surely it shouldnt take this long to announce

also i was just wondering for anyone that knows, why didnt the bmi group move their operations to aldergrove? the airport has no restrictions at the intl, possibly allowing for a later arrival or more flights to heathrow, and also has a fellow star alliance member operating from the airport (CO).

in my opinion baby could have launched their european routes from the intl, as they still have the same amount of competition on them (even more as jet2 have also launched faro), i dont feel the airport change will give them any help as what are they going to do if a flight is delayed? cancel it or just divert the flight back to were they used to be.
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if easyjet or jet2.com are not going to take up the routes lost by the bmibaby move, why doesn't the airport try to entice ryanair to launch these routes plus they could also give us flights to prestwick, and at a long shot possibly doncaster or humberside, at the end of the day if a deal is made they dont have to be a threat to easy or jet2. or is there something in the pipe work we do not know about, although i see this very unlikely as surely it shouldnt take this long to announce
Ryanair has tried to get into BFS twice in recent years, however no agreement was reached.. (fee's) this is dispite M'OL quoting no one wants to fly into a field in the middle of nowhere..

also i was just wondering for anyone that knows, why didnt the bmi group move their operations to aldergrove? the airport has no restrictions at the intl, possibly allowing for a later arrival or more flights to heathrow, and also has a fellow star alliance member operating from the airport (CO).
BMI would have been moving BHD-LHR, the route already exists at BFS..

in my opinion baby could have launched their european routes from the intl, as they still have the same amount of competition on them (even more as jet2 have also launched faro), i dont feel the airport change will give them any help as what are they going to do if a flight is delayed? cancel it or just divert the flight back to were they used to be.
They could have, but they decided to launch existing routes already served from BFS (at much higher prices though) existing airlines would have destroyed bmibaby at BFS.... moving to BHD saved money for bmibaby... they no longer have to pay rent for a restroom for the engineer (big money per year) delays due to tech issues are now minimised (as an engineer had to travel from BHD to BFS if something went wrong) landing fee deals also sealed the deal for the move
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Old 18th Jul 2011, 19:27
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and at a long shot possibly doncaster or humberside
BHD2BFS I would say a very long shot, Ryanair had tried these routes from Dublin and they were a complete flop especially Humberside. I draw a comparison with Dublin as it had a much bigger movement of passenger than BFS to England. So if they wont work for FR from DUB they wont work from BFS/BHD for them either.

Flybe did Humberside from City airport and it didnt last long at all. Same story there.

There is so much extreme views on FR good to bad, and I find them fine to fly with (though not my 1st choice) but I am firmly of the view that in a market with limited demand (NI very dependent on home market as tourism market not huge, relatively speaking) inviting FR into the Belfast would ultimately P*** off the existing carriers and probably lead to erosion of there share of traffic and potentially put FR into a strong bargaining position, not what BFS need.

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i suppose that is very true EI-BUD, then i think the best alternative must be aer lingus regional, if baby can make the routes work in a 737 then surely the load factors on the atr would be great, especially as i would say their aer lingus name is far more recognised that babys was, surely BFS could give them a good deal. and in that case we may even get a cork route
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Hey BHD2BFS; we can wish, I would be delighted to see a Belfast Cork route come back, though Aer Arann saw the number plumet on 2 daily ATR before going to 1 daily and I just cant see it happening, though it would be very convenient for me and my colleagues. The Manx2 accident doesnt create good vibes for people about flying between Belfast & Cork in what the ordinary man on the street would term 'small planes'. I realise that this doesnt seem to have an impact on Manx2 IOM route.

I agree Aer Lingus regional on BFS EMA, CWL and BHX would be a good match, though not sure Aer Arann would want to compete with Flybe as they would see them as a strong rival.

Does anyone remember Aer Lingus operating a charter between Kerry and Belfast on 735s in the mid 90s?? I vaguely remember but not sure how long that went on for....

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Flybe did Humberside from City airport and it didnt last long at all.
Didn't even start
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Old 19th Jul 2011, 18:00
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Booked flights to Turkey Izmir for next July.Lufthansa from Dublin via Frankfurt,Munich. 705 Pounds for 3 Adults 1 Children. Far Better than Charter Flight from Belfast in this area. APD for Blame maybe???
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Booked flights to Turkey Izmir for next July.Lufthansa from Dublin via Frankfurt,Munich. 705 Pounds for 3 Adults 1 Children. Far Better than Charter Flight from Belfast in this area. APD for Blame maybe???
You do know EI fly direct from DUB?

APD you are paying to Germany.
DUB - FRA €32
FRA - MUC €32
MUC - ADB €32
ABR - MUC €32
MUC - FRA €32
FRA - DUB €32
Total €192 to German Gov. (not sure what amount in pounds)

You would of payed less if you flew from BFS.

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