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No merger, no take over, B757 on its way out, leisure schedule airline only, yellow predominent colour, M and no m, spotty M coming back with avangeance...Here are some of the news.
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Please note, the B737NG was mentioned because the worst kept secret in the company.
This was that the airline has been looking at the costs of operating our existing fleet and the B737NG.
This includes l believe cost to fly and maintain current fleet until the B787 is available in numbers, which covers different heavy "C" checks that may be required.
I also understand that the cost of maintaining each aircraft on a year on year basis, given by the manufacturers and what has been learned from operators differs some what.
I only hope that the board is looking how the A320NEO & A321NEO compare to current A320 & A321 and the 737NG.
The reason l say this because it looks like the 737NG is going to be behind the curve with regards to the A320NEO & A321NEO.
Should know more by the end of next month.
This was that the airline has been looking at the costs of operating our existing fleet and the B737NG.
This includes l believe cost to fly and maintain current fleet until the B787 is available in numbers, which covers different heavy "C" checks that may be required.
I also understand that the cost of maintaining each aircraft on a year on year basis, given by the manufacturers and what has been learned from operators differs some what.
I only hope that the board is looking how the A320NEO & A321NEO compare to current A320 & A321 and the 737NG.
The reason l say this because it looks like the 737NG is going to be behind the curve with regards to the A320NEO & A321NEO.
Should know more by the end of next month.
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yellow predominent colour, M and no m, spotty M coming back with avangeance...Here are some of the news.
So other than that it's just a reiteration of what we already knew, now probably just with a better timescale of proceedings perhaps?
Finally were the 737NGs just ''mentioned'' or are they actually happening, it looks like the above postings could have got a little muddled?
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So is this big announcement then? The backbone of the monarch fleet is being replaced by 737NG's? Any mention of these new bases at NCL, EMA & BRS?
Where's Spotty with the inside info when you need him?
Where's Spotty with the inside info when you need him?
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EGCC - No they are looking into the 737NG like any airline would when doing its fleet projections for the coming years. This does not mean we are losing the Airbus.
They are in talks with the regional airports.
They are in talks with the regional airports.
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so pretty much the whole business had access to the big announcement...yet what a confused picture this reads on here...some new aircraft might be coming, some aircraft might be going, and we're going to sort out the different fonts/titles/capital M lash up (and hopefully get rid of the vapid platitudes to the royal couple at the same time)
787's? never going to happen. Sounds like the 738 is a sop to Seattle to get out of the deal.
787's? never going to happen. Sounds like the 738 is a sop to Seattle to get out of the deal.
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There will be no new bases at NCL/EMA/BRS. This was a quote taken completely out of context by someone from the tour operator side of the business after a few too many vinos at a conference! The airline has become schedule led because the tour operator itself is weak and follows rather than leads and has no dedicated vertically integrated sales channels in the way that TOM/TUI does.
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For one who was present at the meeting, l would like to point out the following.
Fleet make up to be decided by end of June, B787 delivery dates unknown.
The B757 looks to be going but it was not stated it would, but taking in what else was said it looks like it is.
It was never said that the B737NG was coming, it was just confirmed that it was being looked at along with the existing fleet.
It was stated as l remember that they are reviewing operating out of regional airports, only airport mentioned was Dublin in answer to a question.
The question was would we set up a ZB programme from there, it was no, but we would operate flights if whole a/c charters are sold.
The only 100% facts we got was the livery is going to change with much bigger titles along the a/c, and the awful colours they are going to use in advertising, you all will see what l mean within the next week or so.
Fleet make up to be decided by end of June, B787 delivery dates unknown.
The B757 looks to be going but it was not stated it would, but taking in what else was said it looks like it is.
It was never said that the B737NG was coming, it was just confirmed that it was being looked at along with the existing fleet.
It was stated as l remember that they are reviewing operating out of regional airports, only airport mentioned was Dublin in answer to a question.
The question was would we set up a ZB programme from there, it was no, but we would operate flights if whole a/c charters are sold.
The only 100% facts we got was the livery is going to change with much bigger titles along the a/c, and the awful colours they are going to use in advertising, you all will see what l mean within the next week or so.
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I fail to see your point about the tour operator being weak. Perhaps you should consider the number of seats our very own in-house tour -ops shift on ZB flights every year, let alone whole plane MON charters.
As for the possible fleet renewel, will any decision not be all dependant on having an a/c in the 200 seat catergory that could make SSH?.. something the current A320/321 currently cannot manage.
I fail to see your point about the tour operator being weak. Perhaps you should consider the number of seats our very own in-house tour -ops shift on ZB flights every year, let alone whole plane MON charters.
As for the possible fleet renewel, will any decision not be all dependant on having an a/c in the 200 seat catergory that could make SSH?.. something the current A320/321 currently cannot manage.
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Hugh Morgan of Monarch Travel Group was definitely reported in the press last March saying the company was considering basing aircraft at NCL, EMA and BRS in 2012.
I know that anyone can consider doing practically anything in life so I'm not in a position to know how serious a contemplation this is or was.
Powerjet1's post #1530 dated 7 March 2011 herein covered the report at the time and is reproduced below.
The Monarch Travel Group is considering adding more regional flying from 2012.
Speaking at the Global Travel Group conference in Leicester this morning, Hugh Morgan, managing director of Monarch Travel Group tour operations division, said the group was currently considering an increase in regional flying.
He said the group was looking at basing aircraft in Bristol, East Midlands and Newcastle airports.
"It is a big investment but we can't utilise a foreign carrier as people don't necessarily support it. We would have to base aircraft at the airports.
"I think we will be doing a lot more regional flying from next year."
He said a decision would be made "very soon" once the company had evaluated all the logistics involved.
The group has previously received criticism from agents for failing to do enough regional flying.
Morgan said it was a 'chicken and egg' situation. "If you're going to do it, you have to do it properly," he added.
I know that anyone can consider doing practically anything in life so I'm not in a position to know how serious a contemplation this is or was.
Powerjet1's post #1530 dated 7 March 2011 herein covered the report at the time and is reproduced below.
The Monarch Travel Group is considering adding more regional flying from 2012.
Speaking at the Global Travel Group conference in Leicester this morning, Hugh Morgan, managing director of Monarch Travel Group tour operations division, said the group was currently considering an increase in regional flying.
He said the group was looking at basing aircraft in Bristol, East Midlands and Newcastle airports.
"It is a big investment but we can't utilise a foreign carrier as people don't necessarily support it. We would have to base aircraft at the airports.
"I think we will be doing a lot more regional flying from next year."
He said a decision would be made "very soon" once the company had evaluated all the logistics involved.
The group has previously received criticism from agents for failing to do enough regional flying.
Morgan said it was a 'chicken and egg' situation. "If you're going to do it, you have to do it properly," he added.
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We need a real dynamic strategic plan, instead we get some fiddling with the brand. Re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic springs to mind. When will someone do something to reverse some of the shocking mess PB got us into.
Egon, I disagree. CC presented himself as a leader. He told us what the company is about and what we are required to do. Also, if my judgement of human nature is not totally flawed, he came across as a good man. What did you expect? The second coming of the messiah?
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Does this mean all long haul is to end?, I hope not, as i normally use MON for my flights to Goa 
BTW ZeBedie nothing wrong with your judgement, Conrad is a very decent person who should serve MON and its people well)
BTW ZeBedie nothing wrong with your judgement, Conrad is a very decent person who should serve MON and its people well)