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Even if the AGP and SSH were only carrying 200 pax it would still make sense to send the 330 to AGP. Two and a half hours each way with half load rather than over five each way with a half load.
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You will more than likely find the A330 is down to operate the AGP for the summer season and the flight is sold as such.
However if the loads on a particular flight are low enough, this allowing for a different type to operate and a spare a/c is available, then an a/c swap may happen.
This will depend on a/c and crew availability, this some times happens where a A320 will operate in place of a A321.
However if the loads on a particular flight are low enough, this allowing for a different type to operate and a spare a/c is available, then an a/c swap may happen.
This will depend on a/c and crew availability, this some times happens where a A320 will operate in place of a A321.
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So the ZB pax loadings on the MAN-AGP on a Monday morning are greater than the seating capacity of a Mon 752?
If that's the case then I can see why its that way but I wouldn't have loadings would be that great that a 752 couldn't cope with the volume of pax, still we're not paid to ask questions, just do as we're told
If that's the case then I can see why its that way but I wouldn't have loadings would be that great that a 752 couldn't cope with the volume of pax, still we're not paid to ask questions, just do as we're told
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It would not matter if they were, the ZB is a scheduled flight and the B757 is operating a charter flight, sold to who ever and only one B757 is based in MAN.
Now if we had loads of B757 parked in MAN and the ZB load was low enough then maybe it could be operated by a B757.
I tell you what, l will try and find out the loads tomorrow and see it could have been done., but longarm is going to be correct even it could be done.
Now if we had loads of B757 parked in MAN and the ZB load was low enough then maybe it could be operated by a B757.
I tell you what, l will try and find out the loads tomorrow and see it could have been done., but longarm is going to be correct even it could be done.
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Egcc,
Think yr missing the point, the LXR is the driver here as it's a charter flight. The market for Egypt has diminished and the extra seats on the 330 are not required (I think originally this flight was planned to operate on a widebody prior to the troubles). So rather than losing the LXR flight, offer a lower capacity aircraft, and instead of having a 330 sit in the deck, add a flight that you know yr get demand for. A AGP is not ideal for a 330, but it will do as a short term measure.
Think yr missing the point, the LXR is the driver here as it's a charter flight. The market for Egypt has diminished and the extra seats on the 330 are not required (I think originally this flight was planned to operate on a widebody prior to the troubles). So rather than losing the LXR flight, offer a lower capacity aircraft, and instead of having a 330 sit in the deck, add a flight that you know yr get demand for. A AGP is not ideal for a 330, but it will do as a short term measure.
But we're all assuming that LXR is the "rightful" place of the widebody as opposed to AGP. AGP, imo, is more of an A330 destination than LXR from a Monarch perspective. Plus the A330 is far from rare in AGP with various carriers.
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To answer the question on loads, they were as follows.
A330 MAN-AGP 269 Pax
A330 AGP-MAN 298 Pax
Followed by a LCA with outbound load of 300+.
B757 MAN-LXR 104 Pax
B757 LXR-MAN 150+ (estimated).
Don't forget the A330 is operating a LCA flight while the B757 is still going outbound to LXR.
A330 MAN-AGP 269 Pax
A330 AGP-MAN 298 Pax
Followed by a LCA with outbound load of 300+.
B757 MAN-LXR 104 Pax
B757 LXR-MAN 150+ (estimated).
Don't forget the A330 is operating a LCA flight while the B757 is still going outbound to LXR.
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It wasn't a question of missing any point at all, it was merely an enquiry as to why a 752 was on a LXR & a 332 on an AGP & now looking at the pax loadings which Spotty has kindly provided my question has been answered, case closed.
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It wasn't a question of missing any point at all, it was merely an enquiry as to why a 752 was on a LXR & a 332 on an AGP & now looking at the pax loadings which Spotty has kindly provided my question has been answered, case closed.
Anyway...
The ''announcment'' is only a day away or so. Anyone have more of an insight other than the rebrand already announced earlier this year?
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I dont understand why they would order 737NG's, when they have such a healthy size of Airbus SH aircraft - unless this is to replace them? If thats the case we could be seeing some 900ER's/800 mix.
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Well I guess it's what we all thought and nothing major. I guess 737s to help with growth into regional UK market again, as people have already said. Perhaps the order will be big enough for A320 replacements too?
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I suppose the cancellation charges on the 787's must be huge so it makes commercial sense to run with the B737NG if new aircraft are required.
What is the future for the A300 and A330?
What is the future for the A300 and A330?
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Has anything been announced? Just curious as "Topspotter" may not be the best username for inside company information!
So is this a really complete rollover of the short haul fleet and a withdrawal from long haul then?
So is this a really complete rollover of the short haul fleet and a withdrawal from long haul then?