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Old 4th Mar 2011, 12:48
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I believe that the TCX 767 upgrade was sponsored by Boeing
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Old 4th Mar 2011, 13:40
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When the 787s were ordered i remember hearing about 33'' legroom in Y as a standard and ZB flights to the US. This was when TJ was around so it might be questionable.

The long haul product does need a complete revamp and 3x3x3 seating needs to go.
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Old 7th Mar 2011, 09:26
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Smile New Flights and Charter Conversions

New 3 x weekly LTNCFU added plus converted and upped frequency on existing charter routes to BJV from BHX/MAN and LGW. All good moves!
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Old 7th Mar 2011, 11:11
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new uk airports

Monarch to add brs/ema/ncl for summer 2012 if plans are o/k with head office, t/b/c soon.
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Old 7th Mar 2011, 12:20
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Maybe that is one of the big annoucements happening in May. Wonder if they are basing crew there?
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Old 7th Mar 2011, 15:20
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'new Airports'

I would guess the 'new' airports would be in conjunction with the tour operator which they have signed up Monarch to operate the routes. You tell us when and where to fly to/from we will do the rest. No definite information but I think that is the way it goes but I stand corrected.
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Old 7th Mar 2011, 15:39
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From Travel Weekly.....

Global 2011: Monarch considers increase to regional flying
Mar 07, 2011 11:00

The Monarch Travel Group is considering adding more regional flying from 2012.

Speaking at the Global Travel Group conference in Leicester this morning, Hugh Morgan, managing director of Monarch Travel Group tour operations division, said the group was currently considering an increase in regional flying.

He said the group was looking at basing aircraft in Bristol, East Midlands and Newcastle airports.

"It is a big investment but we can't utilise a foreign carrier as people don't necessarily support it. We would have to base aircraft at the airports.

"I think we will be doing a lot more regional flying from next year."

He said a decision would be made "very soon" once the company had evaluated all the logistics involved.

The group has previously received criticism from agents for failing to do enough regional flying.

Morgan said it was a 'chicken and egg' situation. "If you're going to do it, you have to do it properly," he added.
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Old 7th Mar 2011, 17:02
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Yes, I read this earlier today and was quite miffed why they'd choose BRS if wanting somewhere in south/southwest - taking on BRS will be a hard job for the likes of Monarch who aren't as well known as other carriers, and obviously at BRS there's the two biggest low-cost carriers in Europe who have, I would say, most Monarch potential routes well covered. It'll be interesting to see what comes of this..!
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Old 7th Mar 2011, 18:12
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Just like the previous failed ABZ and NQY "regional expansion" ?
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Old 7th Mar 2011, 18:14
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ABZ

Yup I'm feeling a certain amount of irony...
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Old 7th Mar 2011, 18:37
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Is BOH a possibility - Ryanair don't seem to want to commit to it and Monarch could easily cover all of their routes anyway. They could even give TOM/TCX some competition too if they did a few charter routes. This would also help to fill the gap left by Palmair's demise. Plus it will have little impact on their existing bases as none are particularly nearby.
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Old 7th Mar 2011, 19:05
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Bristol etc

If it is charter flying Monarch wont have to worry about taking on Easy and Ryanair as it will not be their problem will it.
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Old 7th Mar 2011, 19:06
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Does anybody know how many aircrafts and which models (more or less) are operated in every base? I know that it's a difficult question, but maybe someone knows something about this.

Great news during the conference this morning.

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Old 7th Mar 2011, 23:03
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Would Monarch need to acquire more aircraft if they were to do this.
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Old 7th Mar 2011, 23:06
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I'm very surprised after G-DIMB went back to Thomas Cook that Monarch didn't get another 767-300 from somewhere because i think that they were impressed with it.
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Old 8th Mar 2011, 00:30
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Can't see Cosmos expanding on their own from any regional bases as the brand just isn't strong enough with enough trade presence to go it alone. Maybe, if they have buy-in from Tui or Cooks to part share then it may have some legs.

ABZ/NQY was tried as an experiment to see if there was a market, initially during the winter. It seemed to work ok until Globespan based units at ABZ which proved to be too much capacity for a market of less than 500k population. NQY decided that every pax should pay an additional £5 per departing pax for the privilige of Bettys tea bar and the man doing the refuelling, marshalling, baggage unloading......

I'd like to see ZB at LBA and STN.
Leeds is a market that is essentially cherry-picked by LS and whenever ZB have gone head-to-head with LS they seem to more than hold their own. Even when FR have come onto ZB markets in LTN/BHX/MAN they don't appear to faze them.

Stansted is starting to get some gaps appearing given EZYs fixation with LGW and FRs ending of preferential rates and with BA now looking to finally start to take LGW seriously after God knows how many years there look to be interesting times ahead (look for GO2 to set up base at LGW and take over all BA shorthaul ops possibly in conjunction with Air Berlin). ZB could capitalise on that.

Interesting times ahead...
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Old 8th Mar 2011, 07:15
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They also tried BLK, but gave that up for LS to jump in, then reduce services.

Didn't they base an aircraft at AGP to operate the above, the ABZ and NQY services?
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Old 8th Mar 2011, 07:26
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If my memory is correct the Blackpool and Aberdeen services were operated on W patterns and they also had problems with Aberdeen Airport regarding extensions to opening hours. Was there not an incident when an aircraft was on approach and the airport closed before it could land or had it landed and then the airport closed then had to wait until the following morning to get away. Maybe some of our local Aberdeen friends could verify this for us.
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Old 8th Mar 2011, 08:42
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With regards G-DIMB, monarch were given the option of keeping it on but the decided against it. I'm not sure if they were happy with it or not but it was never going to stay in the fleet. Monarch want to streamline their fleet and adding a 767 into the mix just didnt work.
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Old 8th Mar 2011, 19:17
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According to Travel Weekly Monarch will operate Norwich - Funchal from 9th May for Atlantic Holidays.
No info on frequency or number of flights.
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