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Old 31st Dec 2010, 13:26
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Scandic, is there any chance that you could spare us from the incessant ravings about Monarch getting more 757s? It is very boring and entirely speculative.

Back to the point - my understanding is that Monarch were trying to increase the prices which Olympic had paid for many years by a sizeable percentage. Olympic said no and have gone off to get other flying elsewhere.

Monarch has picked up a contract to do a total of five 757 roundtrips per week (using an aircraft with 30+ seats removed for the purpose) on Gatwick-Ottawa and Montreal plus a Gatwick-Toronto-Birmingham W pattern. That is hardly going to replace the gaping hole in Greece and Cyprus left by the end of the Olympic deal.

And whenever they have tried to expand using Avro and Cosmos, they have ended up with both of those subsidiaries losing loads of money - so what's going to be different this time? As renort said, logic like that was the undoing of XL to a large degree.
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Old 31st Dec 2010, 13:45
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That is hardly going to replace the gaping hole in Greece and Cyprus left by the end of the Olympic deal.
To Monarch there is currently no gaping hole. Cosmos are picking up most of the Olympic capacity. The gaping hole only appears if Cosmos can't sell the extra capacity
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Old 31st Dec 2010, 15:08
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You lot are boring harping on about whether monarch will survive in the current market, monarch doesn't fly for over 40 years for nothing they know their business..
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Old 31st Dec 2010, 15:23
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Monarch Canada

If Monarch have apparently got this Canadian Affair Contract, when we be able to book the flights?
Will they go for sale on the Monarch Charter on their website or just CA?
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Old 31st Dec 2010, 18:10
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Have you rang CA and asked them??
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Old 31st Dec 2010, 18:20
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Yes, I phoned but the agent said that she hadn't heard that TCX were not operating the YYZ flights
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Old 31st Dec 2010, 21:32
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Canadian Affair sent me an updated brochure this week. ALL 757 flights are shown as MONARCH, seat pitch 32". But the 757s will only be operated from Gatwick & Birmingham.
It looks like the MAN-YYZ is now exclusively operated by Air Transat A310/A330. (as is LHR, GLA, EXT, NEW)
The only TCX flight to YYZ is a weekly A330 on a Monday from Gatwick.
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Old 31st Dec 2010, 21:44
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Very helpful Mr A! Wonder when they will be online etc.. Because I have booked to fly MAN-YYZ with TCX so it is interesting I am now going to be TS
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Old 1st Jan 2011, 18:50
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Those of you who think monarch might be in trouble couldn't be further from the truth. Just because they told olympic where to go doesn't mean they are in trouble. It means that they aren't idiots excepting any contract even if the money doesn't balance. Remember Cosmos and monarch and basically the same company so some good advertising from them should bring in a good yield.
If monarch made a loss this year i'd be really surprised from what i have seen. Maybe a small profit but not a loss.
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Old 1st Jan 2011, 20:33
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In the year to October 2009, Monarch lost £19.2m. ttg18062010 The current year's figures will be affected by the disruption caused by the ash cloud.
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Old 2nd Jan 2011, 07:18
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In the year to October 2010 the Monarch Group made a small profit, despite the Ash Cloud.
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Old 2nd Jan 2011, 12:57
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They seem to have picked up a lot of MOD work recently, hear there doing pretty well at the moment generally.
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Old 5th Jan 2011, 21:48
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PFO (Paphos) has just been added to the summer schdule on the ZB network on wed and sun ex LGW, BHX and MAN using AB6/752 and 321 aircraft.
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Old 5th Jan 2011, 21:56
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PFO

Good to see PFO added but as I have said on the BHX thread it looks like they have just converted two IT flights to schedule unless BHX is getting a 5th based aircraft. Also it is thus far summer only unless the schedule/timetable has yet to be updated.

Are the LGW and MAN schedules similar to BHX and just a case of changing the flights from IT to schedule? I hope I am wrong and it is an increase in real terms but it seems unlikely?

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Old 5th Jan 2011, 22:07
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The Wednesday flight from MAN would seem to be the Charter becoming a scheduled flight.

The timings are exactly the same and the Charter flight is no longer available. I don't know about the Sunday flight.
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Old 5th Jan 2011, 23:10
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Oltonpete,

Not sure how true it is, but I have heard that Monarch are basing 5 aircraft at BHX from summer 2011,

Can anyone else confirm that?
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Old 6th Jan 2011, 17:33
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December pax up 12.88%

2011 News - Flights - Monarch passenger numbers soar in December 2010 | Flights News | Monarch

Very noticeable at BHX that there were less cut-backs in the first two weeks of December, which is traditionally a quiet period. There has been some pruning of the January schedule at BHX but certainly no worse than last year, in fact I would say overall there will be slightly more ZB movements than in 2010 .

Sam1664

Not heard that one but it is the kind of boost BHX needs.

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Old 6th Jan 2011, 21:13
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Good to see them doing well, great outfit
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Old 7th Jan 2011, 09:33
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didnt take long for the new boss to start shaking things up. Wonder who's next...?

from TTG

Tim Jeans quits Monarch Airlines

Jan 07, 2011 09:29

Tim Jeans has quit as managing director of Monarch Airlines.
He is leaving “to pursue other opportunities outside the group,” according to parent company the Monarch Group.
Jeans has been succeeded by Kevin George, who is promoted from the role of airline operations managing director.
George has more than 25 years industry experience and has been with Monarch Airlines for four years.
Group chief executive Conrad Clifford said: “Kevin has done a fantastic job in managing all operational aspects of the airline and we are looking forward to drawing on his wealth of experience in commercial strategy and service delivery which will be key components of the new direction for Monarch Airlines going forward within the Monarch Group.
“We are grateful to Tim for his valued contribution to the growth of the Monarch Airlines business over the last six years and we wish him every success for his future.”
Monarch Airlines operates a fleet of 30 aircraft on scheduled and charter flights to more than 50 destinations, carrying around six million sector passengers a year.
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Old 7th Jan 2011, 09:59
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Whos next? The Major????????
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