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Does anyone have a revised delivery for the B787's?
The last statement by Monarch was a 29 month delay to Spring 2013 but there have been at least two further delays to the Dreamliner programme since then.
The last statement by Monarch was a 29 month delay to Spring 2013 but there have been at least two further delays to the Dreamliner programme since then.
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monarch operating b757 to canada wonder they woud not operate the toronto route from belfast right size of aircraft for a 3 times a week service to toronto they would make a fortune.
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I agree with you Victoria completely!!!
Since when have we not had a YYZ service? Monarch 752 would be great.
I am travelling to Toronto with Canadian Affair, not really sure with which airline - booked as TCX but not sure now whether MON or TS.
If Canada would be quite a big move, would a competitor into the PMI, MAH, BCN, LCA, AGP etc.. with Monarch be good for Belfast?
Since when have we not had a YYZ service? Monarch 752 would be great.
I am travelling to Toronto with Canadian Affair, not really sure with which airline - booked as TCX but not sure now whether MON or TS.
If Canada would be quite a big move, would a competitor into the PMI, MAH, BCN, LCA, AGP etc.. with Monarch be good for Belfast?
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In view of the recent statement that Monarch may revert back to a policy of quoting an inclusive price (just how much inclusive was not clarified) rather than the current 'add-on' system, I thought it may be interesting to compare on a like for like basis, the prices currently being quoted for next year with those paid pre add-on days.
In October 2002 Monarch Scheduled quoted £177.50 per adult for a return flight from Manchester to Faro in June 2003.
The price advertised was the price paid 4 x £177.50 = £710.00. This price was for full service flights and included 20Kg Baggage Allowance, Hot Meals in both directions, Pre-Selected seats, Taxes and Credit Card Charges.
The current pricing for 4 Adults on exactly the same dates in June 2011 is as follows:
Base Fare - £443.92
Taxes & Charges - £219.96
Seat Selection ( Standard Seats) - £60.00
Baggage Charge - £103.92
In Flight Meals - £52.00
Booking and Additional Fee - £43.99
TOTAL (For 4 Adults) - £923.79
On a like for like comparison, the prices quoted for 2011 represent an increase of 30% over an 8 year period.
Now some people may think a 30% increase over this time span is quite high. However, when you consider the massive increase in security costs over the past 8 years together with the APD charge, a 30% increase looks on the face of it quite reasonable.
I personally welcome prices displayed as all inclusive but the question is ' Will Monarch be putting themselves at a marketing disadvantage if they decide to go it alone and display inclusive prices and how much will they include as all-inclusive and how much will remain optional.'
One item I noticed on the current pricing for next year was a charge of £32.00 Fuel Supplement buried into Taxes and Charges. I mention this only because I would have thought that if the fuel costs are known 8 months before the flights, then this charge should have been incorporated in the base fare.
In October 2002 Monarch Scheduled quoted £177.50 per adult for a return flight from Manchester to Faro in June 2003.
The price advertised was the price paid 4 x £177.50 = £710.00. This price was for full service flights and included 20Kg Baggage Allowance, Hot Meals in both directions, Pre-Selected seats, Taxes and Credit Card Charges.
The current pricing for 4 Adults on exactly the same dates in June 2011 is as follows:
Base Fare - £443.92
Taxes & Charges - £219.96
Seat Selection ( Standard Seats) - £60.00
Baggage Charge - £103.92
In Flight Meals - £52.00
Booking and Additional Fee - £43.99
TOTAL (For 4 Adults) - £923.79
On a like for like comparison, the prices quoted for 2011 represent an increase of 30% over an 8 year period.
Now some people may think a 30% increase over this time span is quite high. However, when you consider the massive increase in security costs over the past 8 years together with the APD charge, a 30% increase looks on the face of it quite reasonable.
I personally welcome prices displayed as all inclusive but the question is ' Will Monarch be putting themselves at a marketing disadvantage if they decide to go it alone and display inclusive prices and how much will they include as all-inclusive and how much will remain optional.'
One item I noticed on the current pricing for next year was a charge of £32.00 Fuel Supplement buried into Taxes and Charges. I mention this only because I would have thought that if the fuel costs are known 8 months before the flights, then this charge should have been incorporated in the base fare.
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I notice the new Monarch website is now up and running.
The prices displayed are inclusive of all taxes and charges but obviously exclude optional choices like Hold Bags, Meals and Seat Selection. Credit Card charges and a Booking Fee is charged additionally unless payment is made by PayPal in which case there is no booking fee.
Whilst I warmly welcome this change, it would appear that Monarch have taken this opportunity to increase prices.
If any Monarch managers read these postings, I would urge you to get a grip of your costs as the price differential between Monarch and your competitors is growing bigger and bigger and bigger each year to the point that I would now question is it worth it.
The prices displayed are inclusive of all taxes and charges but obviously exclude optional choices like Hold Bags, Meals and Seat Selection. Credit Card charges and a Booking Fee is charged additionally unless payment is made by PayPal in which case there is no booking fee.
Whilst I warmly welcome this change, it would appear that Monarch have taken this opportunity to increase prices.
If any Monarch managers read these postings, I would urge you to get a grip of your costs as the price differential between Monarch and your competitors is growing bigger and bigger and bigger each year to the point that I would now question is it worth it.
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I believe that Monarch will purchase to more 757's for next summer but not sure where they'll come from yet. Even though their not made anymore airlines are still leasing or buying them, Tommy Cook have just got 2 ex china 757's. Their a great reliable aircraft.
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So very much the same kinda pattern as last summer then for DUB. At least the Chaps will be back, we couldnt have a summer without the old chaps I have to say. Spiffing bunch in Monarch.
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Good to see a xecond A321 next summer. Europe Airpost and Czech airlines will operate the MON services on Thursday to increase the number of seats availible from Dublin and reduce the number availible from Knock.
Summer 2010 on Thursdays it was:
Dublin - Faro - Knock - Faro - Dublin - MON A320
Summer 2011 on Thursdays it will be:
Dublin - Faro - Knock - Faro - Dublin - Europe Airpost B733
Dublin - Faro - Dublin - Czech airlines A321
Summer 2010 on Thursdays it was:
Dublin - Faro - Knock - Faro - Dublin - MON A320
Summer 2011 on Thursdays it will be:
Dublin - Faro - Knock - Faro - Dublin - Europe Airpost B733
Dublin - Faro - Dublin - Czech airlines A321
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Yeah a great bunch of people in Monarch i have to say. True professionals at what they do.
Pity they aren't doing the knock route this year. Hopefully they'll begin to expand out of Ireland soon.
Pity they aren't doing the knock route this year. Hopefully they'll begin to expand out of Ireland soon.