Monarch -2
A friend of mine is a RR engineer and has worked on the Dreamliner engines. His advice to me was, whatever you do, don't fly on one until I tell you it's OK. Big probs trying to get the power and efficiency required I'm told.
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The monarch website might be worth a gander, flew out of man on a newish A321 last week far nicer cabin than those grotty old 757,s the quicker they all get replced by new airbuses the better imo
Once they have gone they have gone!!
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How do Monarch justify this:-
Flight from Man to Spain
Air passenger duty £10 OK thats the Mr Brown bit.
Fuel supplement £16 Makes me wonder what it would be if oil was still
140/150 dollars a barrel.
Passenger service charge £13.70 Do I have my own stewardess .
Airport Dep. tax £4.45 The Man. airport bit.
Airport handling charge £2.10 What are they handling, I have no luggage.
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Jubilee
Flight from Man to Spain
Air passenger duty £10 OK thats the Mr Brown bit.
Fuel supplement £16 Makes me wonder what it would be if oil was still
140/150 dollars a barrel.
Passenger service charge £13.70 Do I have my own stewardess .
Airport Dep. tax £4.45 The Man. airport bit.
Airport handling charge £2.10 What are they handling, I have no luggage.
Regards
Jubilee
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monarch dont have ant 757-200 left at manchester
G-DAJB
G-MONJ
G-MONK
... and there will be one of them operating flights from MAN this year
G-MONB left the Monarch fleet for Fed Express on 03/02/2009 and
G_MONE on 02/12/2008, also to Fed Express
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One of the MON flights today from LTN (I believe ZB12 to AGP) went tech, and they ended up hiring an A/C from Thomson.
All I can imagine is that it cost them a small fortune... does anybody have an idea why MON wouldn't just delay their own A/C until the issue is resolved?
All I can imagine is that it cost them a small fortune... does anybody have an idea why MON wouldn't just delay their own A/C until the issue is resolved?
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Because that aircraft would be needed for another flight probably when it was fixed, therefore to delay it til then would quite possibly delay another 3 or 4 flights after that so it's best to pay out for another aircraft than the possible loss of future business by 800 pax + their friends etc.
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As well as what mmeteeside has said, it will also most likely have been a much cheaper deal than requesting the likes of Titan to operate the route.
Despite all the airlines being in competition with each other, when it comes to helping each other out, be it a tech delay, they are usually quite keen to do so.
Despite all the airlines being in competition with each other, when it comes to helping each other out, be it a tech delay, they are usually quite keen to do so.
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The a/c at LTN did not go tech.
The TOM B737 was subbed in because if they waited, it would not have been until late tonight when a returning a/c from its second rotation of the day would become available.
MON knew yesterday that one of their a/c (A320) required an engine change found during its routine hangar check and would not be completed for this mornings flight.
That's the difference between Monarch and the likes of BA, Easyjet and Ryanair, they would more than likely cancel the flight, where MON will sub in.
The TOM B737 was subbed in because if they waited, it would not have been until late tonight when a returning a/c from its second rotation of the day would become available.
MON knew yesterday that one of their a/c (A320) required an engine change found during its routine hangar check and would not be completed for this mornings flight.
That's the difference between Monarch and the likes of BA, Easyjet and Ryanair, they would more than likely cancel the flight, where MON will sub in.
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Jubilee...actually you've broken the charges down wrong.
Air passenger duty £10 OK thats the Mr Brown bit.
Fuel supplement £16 Makes me wonder what it would be if oil was still
140/150 dollars a barrel - I think you'll find that Monarch like a lot of airlines panicked and hedged at a rate far higher than todays rates hence the surcharge.
Passenger service charge £13.70 Do I have my own stewardess - No but this is the Manchester airport bit and the fee they levy for using their facilities .
Airport Dep. tax £4.45 The Man. airport bit - actually the Spanish airport bit.
Airport handling charge £2.10 What are they handling, I have no luggage - a baggage screening charge per passenger levied by Spain regardless of whether you have a bag or not
Air passenger duty £10 OK thats the Mr Brown bit.
Fuel supplement £16 Makes me wonder what it would be if oil was still
140/150 dollars a barrel - I think you'll find that Monarch like a lot of airlines panicked and hedged at a rate far higher than todays rates hence the surcharge.
Passenger service charge £13.70 Do I have my own stewardess - No but this is the Manchester airport bit and the fee they levy for using their facilities .
Airport Dep. tax £4.45 The Man. airport bit - actually the Spanish airport bit.
Airport handling charge £2.10 What are they handling, I have no luggage - a baggage screening charge per passenger levied by Spain regardless of whether you have a bag or not
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TT,
Thanks for your breakdown,I was of course assuming that the last two charges were for Manchester and not Spanish, as you rightly point out.
Does anybody know how long fuel has been hedged for, as supplements still apply next March.
Regards,
Jubilee
Thanks for your breakdown,I was of course assuming that the last two charges were for Manchester and not Spanish, as you rightly point out.
Does anybody know how long fuel has been hedged for, as supplements still apply next March.
Regards,
Jubilee
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It would be difficult to find out for an airline like Monarch, who are privately owned, as they don't have to publish detailed accounts. Other public airlines have said that they were anywhere from 0 - 40% hedged for the winter season and beyond at the higher rates.
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Are Monarch short of an A/C for their LGW flying programme? I am presuming that G-OZBV is late in being delivered as bmi are basing an A321 at LGW for the next 2 weeks to cover.
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Yes MON are short of a/c, two A321s and a B757.
One A321 and B757 are late off "C" checks and there is a delay with the leasing of G-OZBV, due to the change in ownership of the a/c before MON leases it.
One A321 and B757 are late off "C" checks and there is a delay with the leasing of G-OZBV, due to the change in ownership of the a/c before MON leases it.
