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Air Europa fly twice daily so I suppose if ZB take over these flights
and AEA code-share it would just be an upgrade in seats from the
current 195.
easyjet are showing Madrid five a day in the week this winter and it did not take them long to react to ZB's new LGW-BCN by adding a 6th daily for next summer.
BHX-MAD is vacant but alas I fear that the A320/321 is much too big for that route despite BMI Baby's impressive passenger numbers when they last operated it but that was pre-recession and on a 735/733 mix.
When is the ZB summer 2012 schedule likely to be finalised, as BHX is still showing five based on a Sunday compared to four the rest of the week?
I know it is still early, as only BMI Baby have their full BHX schedule out and ryanair just have selected routes on sale.
and AEA code-share it would just be an upgrade in seats from the
current 195.
easyjet are showing Madrid five a day in the week this winter and it did not take them long to react to ZB's new LGW-BCN by adding a 6th daily for next summer.
BHX-MAD is vacant but alas I fear that the A320/321 is much too big for that route despite BMI Baby's impressive passenger numbers when they last operated it but that was pre-recession and on a 735/733 mix.
When is the ZB summer 2012 schedule likely to be finalised, as BHX is still showing five based on a Sunday compared to four the rest of the week?
I know it is still early, as only BMI Baby have their full BHX schedule out and ryanair just have selected routes on sale.
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BHX-MAD is vacant but alas I fear that the A320/321 is much too big for that route despite BMI Baby's impressive passenger numbers when they last operated it but that was pre-recession and on a 735/733 mix.
When is the ZB summer 2012 schedule likely to be finalised, as BHX is still showing five based on a Sunday compared to four the rest of the week?
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BMI Baby operated 4 weekly in general, possibly three in winter.
Of course that was point to point traffic but I assume the AEA-ZB tie-up is to offer connections but I still don't see this happening.
As for the Sunday 2012 flights, quite possible but that would be a first at BHX in summer although since the beginning of October the one BHX based aircraft often operates on a Monday from another base in the morning and another positions in empty to operate a BHX flight in the afternoon but that is for one month only.
BMI Baby operated 4 weekly in general, possibly three in winter.
Of course that was point to point traffic but I assume the AEA-ZB tie-up is to offer connections but I still don't see this happening.
As for the Sunday 2012 flights, quite possible but that would be a first at BHX in summer although since the beginning of October the one BHX based aircraft often operates on a Monday from another base in the morning and another positions in empty to operate a BHX flight in the afternoon but that is for one month only.
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The oldest B757 in their fleet had clocked up almost 87,000 hours at the end of 2010 so must be pushing 90,000 hours by now. They have been tremendous aircraft for Monarch and it will be sad to see them go.
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Im sure ZB were not the first to get them but i know they were one of the first ones i think one they used to have was like the 15th made or something think it's with fedex now.
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First B757 for European operations were as follows.
BA G-BIKB Del 25/01/83 and ferried to UK 03/02/83
BA G-BIKC Del 31/01/83 and ferried to UK 03/02/83
MON G-MONB Del 21/03/83 and ferried to UK 22/03/83
AE G-BKRM Del 30/03/83 and ferried to UK 06/04/83
Have checked two different sources and both confirm order of deliveries.
So the longest operation of the B757 in the world, not just Europe is Monarch, as BA stopped operating the B757 a few months back.
Before anyone mentions Open Skies, that is a subsidiary and the other BA B757 are parked awaiting delivery to Fedex.
BA G-BIKB Del 25/01/83 and ferried to UK 03/02/83
BA G-BIKC Del 31/01/83 and ferried to UK 03/02/83
MON G-MONB Del 21/03/83 and ferried to UK 22/03/83
AE G-BKRM Del 30/03/83 and ferried to UK 06/04/83
Have checked two different sources and both confirm order of deliveries.
So the longest operation of the B757 in the world, not just Europe is Monarch, as BA stopped operating the B757 a few months back.
Before anyone mentions Open Skies, that is a subsidiary and the other BA B757 are parked awaiting delivery to Fedex.
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IIRC, Monarch were the first operator with RB211-535E4 powered 757's, the BA and Eastern aircraft were powered by RB211-535C2/4 I think.
If the grey matter is working correctly I also seem to recall the the initial Air Europe machines were a batch of C2/4 originally destined for BA.
The difference being the E4's are a higher thrust rating. I think its something like around an extra 2000lbs thrust ?
If the grey matter is working correctly I also seem to recall the the initial Air Europe machines were a batch of C2/4 originally destined for BA.
The difference being the E4's are a higher thrust rating. I think its something like around an extra 2000lbs thrust ?
Last edited by hatters united; 24th Oct 2011 at 11:33. Reason: memory fade
I think the early Monarch 757s were delivered with 535Cs and quicly converted to E4 standard and I think these were the first E4s in service. Later aircraft were delivered to Monarch with E4s.The E4 has a different external appearance to the C and it sounds different on take-off.
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Are Monarch going to have aircraft based in Dublin next summer? Heard they have lost the contract for next year!