Monarch -2

[DickPilot]

And fleet expansion to 40 aircraft.

[Curious Pax]

And fleet expansion to 40 aircraft.

That'll take more than 2 320s. Jethro's site currently has:

4 A300s
5 A320s
16 A321s
2 A330s
3 757s

which is 30 aircraft.

[Ian Brooks]

Not by next year I wouldn`t think

[RHINO]

reread AIRBUS 321's post.....steady as you go

[DickPilot]

Curios Pax

Fleet expansion will take place over time, therefore 40 aircraft in the medium term. This is directly from a management memo to staff as of 1030 this morning. Bytheway, no mention of BMI Baby.

[cesare.caldi]

Any idea about what airport will use for new route to milan? Mxp or bgy?

[Airbus321-200]

Dont forget the 757s will be going and the A300s only have 3 yrs max left in them.

So thats 7 aircraft to leave medium term. so realistically they will need 15 aircraft on top of the 320s that are coming.

So the 737s will certainly be on the cards.

But as i said - steady as she goes should be monarchs tagline. This really wasnt as big of an announcement that people thought it would be. An airline launching new routes?? heaven forbid. Not even a new ZB base.

But it certainly is a big step forward towards a scheduled airline. Now they need to get their turnaround times down and a 3rd rotation for most aircraft and profit wont be far off.

[lexoncd]

Injection of capital to fund short term activities to see how the current downturn will affect the underlying business model. Sell to one of the other lo co or other main stream tour operators. Drop the cosmos brand as now the Co-op is tied up with Thomas Cook so distribution will be an issue.

Announce 40 aircraft and then in the months ahead gradually reduce this expectation?

I hope not. I think the Monarch product is spot on...

[j636]

with these new routes where will the reductions come from at MAN & LGW as they are gettinlg no extra aircraft and with the 757 going to. Will the DUB base closure be enough to add routes without reducing others.

Great to see ZB expanding at BHX

[Airbus321-200]

There is still charter work in Ireland for next year. But not from DUB as far as i've seen on thomas cook website.

2 x A320s joining the fleet and an A320 transfered from LTN and MAN to go to BHX and LGW.

There must be a bigger plan than this as with medium term fleet expectations at 40 aircraft there must be an order ahead or a major lease agreement. 7 aircraft(757&300) to leave the fleet within the next few years so that means 17 aircraft need to be found. With these 2 320s coming it then means 15 aircraft needed for the medium term goal.

[compton3bravo]

SUMMER 2012 SCHEDULES

Just done a quick calculation for schedules for Luton on Saturday mornings in June and July and unless the schedule changes it will still need FIVE aircraft - the same as summer 2011. Departures to Gib, Palma, Alicante, Malaga and Faro.
I would think probably a three times weekly to Rome with hopefully a Friday and Sunday rotation.
If a A320 is being moved more room for another Wizz, easyJet aircraft to night stop.
One some mornings I see there are 13 Wizz arrivals.

[Chidken Sangwich]

Isn't the D6 PMI on AB6 on 'W' from MAN?

[MKY661]

No Heraklion from MAN? would have been a good choice to convert from charter to scheduled & think. Same with Corfu.

And the Milan is Milan Malpensa & Venice is Venice-Marco Polo

[MKY661]

The dates of the new routes:

Manchester
Dubrovnik from 27 March 3pw
Milan-Malpensa from 25 March 4pw
Venice-Marco Polo from 27 March 4pw
Verona from 25 March 2pw

Birmingham
Dubrovnik from 1 May 2pw (seasonal)
Heraklion from 1 May 2pw (seasonal)
Milan-Malpensa from 25 March 4pw
Rome-Fiumicino from 25 March 5pw
Venice-Marco Polo from 25 March 4pw

Luton
Rome-Fiumicono from 25 March 3pw

Gatwick
Dubrovnik from 1 May 3pw (seasonal)
Heraklion from 1 May 3pw (seasonal)
Milan-Malpensa from 25 March 6pw
Venice-Marco Polo from 25 March 4pw

[Buster the Bear]

There is a Luton-Palma on a Saturday that departs around 08:00 and the A300 in at lunchtime on a W pattern.

[Jamie2k9]

There is still charter work in Ireland for next year. But not from DUB as far as i've seen on thomas cook website.

No work for MON and they are finding it hard to get a replacment carrier to operate the flights left by MON.

[Airbus321-200]

Monarch are working out of Ireland next year. Ireland.... not Dublin. Cork seems to have at least 3/4 days work out of there for next yr.

So it's not monarch turning down the work but just taking the more profitable work.

[PPRuNeUser0176]

Whatever flights ORK have lost is a direct result of Aer Lingus starting PMI, LPA and Ryanair starting LPA,TFS and ACE which has had a big inpact on charter flights over the summer and even this winter there is only one charter flight to ACE compared to 3 to ACE and 1 to LPA the previous winter.

On the TCK irish site the only flight that Cork does not have a carrier for is FAO which MON done on a W from DUB last year.

TCX ORK schedule next summer updated 21 October 11:

AIR CONTRACTORS Crete 17:25 23:55 13:35 16:25 18-May-12 28-Sep-12
IBERWORLD Costa Dorada 07:00 10:10 17:45 19:00 11-May-12 21-Sep-12
TRAVEL SERVICE Lanzarote TBA TBA TBA TBA 05-May-12 03-Nov-12
IBERWORLD Gran Canaria 14:30 18:20-19:20 23:10 05-May-12 27-Oct-12
TBA Portugal (Faro) TBA TBA TBA TBA 20-May-12 30-Sep-12 (block on bookings unitl further notice-next update late November)
ONUR AIR Turkey (Bodrum) 09:40 16:00-06:00 08:40 19-May-12 29-Sep-12
IBERWORLD Majorca 07:00 10:25-11:25 13:00 19-May-12 29-Sep-12

[compton3bravo]

No Chickden there are two Palma´s on a Saturday an early morning on an A320/1 and the ´W¨pattern with an A300 in the early afternoon. Hope this is clear C3B. Ooops sorry repeating somebody else!

[Chidken Sangwich]

C3B - Thanks.

PMI - Maybe a prime candidate for a consolidation onto the AB6 then if they need to pull an aircraft out?