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Old 15th Oct 2011, 22:26
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Oh god! here we go again. Same time every year we hear this sh*t.

Go ask that question over in the thomas cook forum.
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Old 15th Oct 2011, 23:50
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Oh dear, RoyHudd. Corporate image and branding issues are considered pretty important within most companies. "Pathetic" spotters tend to understand that quite well ... is it a bit too difficult for you? Or are you just playing the troll again, perhaps?

ADDED: And another thing, Roy. I note that you have just placed an undisguised 'troll post' on the Blackpool forum as well. Are you having a bad day?

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Old 16th Oct 2011, 07:53
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Well I think it's quite spiffing that the main worry for Monarch is corporate branding and quite how good the paint job is.
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Old 16th Oct 2011, 08:48
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Mr airbus a321-200. You state go and mention that in the thomas cook forum. Why would a company that made £320 million profit this year need to be told that?
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Old 16th Oct 2011, 10:46
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Thomas Cook UK do you mean or worldwide?
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Old 16th Oct 2011, 11:59
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Worldwide being the key word. The Uk end of the company haven't added anything towards that profit.
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Old 16th Oct 2011, 12:23
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It is not the profit that you need to look at it is the share price.
That is what is troubling the market, the possibility of breaching of its loans due to its share price.
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Old 16th Oct 2011, 23:01
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No, G-MAJS & G-OJMR remain operating in the usual 352Y config throughout W11 and the remaining two AB6 a/c will be reconfigured into ABX 50C / 297Y config a/c for W11 as follows :- G-MONR from 04 Nov 2011 G-MONS from 22 Nov 2011
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Old 17th Oct 2011, 08:49
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the remaining two AB6 a/c will be reconfigured into ABX 50C / 297Y config a/c for W11
Thats only an extra 5 seats, not even one row.

What is meant by ABX and are the 50C seats supposed to be extra legroom ?
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Old 17th Oct 2011, 10:26
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Thats only an extra 5 seats, not even one row.

What is meant by ABX and are the 50C seats supposed to be extra legroom ?
ABX is the same as the A300 (or AB6) and just refers to the aircraft when it when it is divided into premium and economy cabins.

When a Premium cabin is made on Monarch's A300, a seat is taken from each row at the front of the aircraft to make it a 2-4-2 configuration instead of its usual 3-3-3 configuration. There are 7 rows that make up the Premium cabin, however row 1 already has a configuration of 2-3-2 and row 7 is made up of just 3 seats , so these rows are not affected. Therefore just 5 seats are removed from the front of the aircraft to make way for Premium.

The front of all Monarch's A300s (i.e. the first 7 rows) has been extra legroom seating since the beginning of S'11.
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Old 17th Oct 2011, 10:28
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Thanks for that partyboy uk.
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Old 18th Oct 2011, 06:17
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If TC are finding it tough then so are Monarch. The fact that TC is publicly traded means everyone's an expert on their results.
Unless you have knowledge of the Monarch numbers then stop sneering.
Your considerable time on PPRuNE would be better spent attending to the fantasies of the enthusiasts on here keen to know the latest news on whether the new titles will have a capital M or not.
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Old 22nd Oct 2011, 14:03
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I wonder if the codeshare between Air Europa and Monarch is still going to happen
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Old 23rd Oct 2011, 12:26
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I heard they are getting 3 more airbuses shortly dont know any more details.
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Old 23rd Oct 2011, 13:04
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There DUB base for 2012 supposed to be scrapped since a few weeks ago. They had crew etc hired for next year but few people saying they not operating there after this years flights come to an end.
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Old 23rd Oct 2011, 13:48
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The airbuses will probably be 321's to replace the 757's One is nearly 25 years old now and that is the age when the planes leave the fleet usually
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Old 23rd Oct 2011, 14:07
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The oldest B757 in their fleet had clocked up almost 87,000 hours at the end of 2010 so must be pushing 90,000 hours by now. They have been tremendous aircraft for Monarch and it will be sad to see them go.
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Old 23rd Oct 2011, 14:35
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I wonder if the codeshare between Air Europa and Monarch is still going to happen
No idea, but the daily MAN-MAD flights that were supposed to happen from Feb are now off the cards. Probably a good thing since I hear EZY, FR and IB will all be competing on the route.
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Old 23rd Oct 2011, 19:21
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Deff. heard news of a new route from LGW to MAD next year though.
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Old 23rd Oct 2011, 19:24
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But I Think there's too much competition for them!
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