Flyglobespan into administration
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TRSS has been banned but asked me to post this.
He has been in touch with the Head of Recruitment at Ryanair and applications from GSM Captains are very welcome.
The full details of the experience requirements are on the website.
At the moment no applications are being processed for SFOs or FOs, but, the word from the horse's mouth is keep checking the website as things change day to day.
He wishes you all the best in your search for another job.
He has been in touch with the Head of Recruitment at Ryanair and applications from GSM Captains are very welcome.
The full details of the experience requirements are on the website.
At the moment no applications are being processed for SFOs or FOs, but, the word from the horse's mouth is keep checking the website as things change day to day.
He wishes you all the best in your search for another job.
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So Sorry For You All!
The sad news of Globespan's demise puts our own disputes with management in the shade! I would rather have crappy conditions and still have a job. I think many of my crew colleagues don't feel this way because they have never experienced what being out of work is like - I lost my job three times when the "Iron Battleaxe" was Prime Minister and I would never wish that on anyone.
Good Luck to you all at Globspan - I'm just so sorry BA has a recruitment freeze and the aviation industry is in such a mess.
Is there a fund being set up to help wish our Globespan friends a bit of Christmas cheer and help cushion the blow for our " colleagues in airmanship"? Mrs Bealine and I can't afford much, but we would certainly put a few quid into a PayPal account if someone would get one going!
Come on Ppruners - Let's Get Something Going!
Good Luck to you all at Globspan - I'm just so sorry BA has a recruitment freeze and the aviation industry is in such a mess.
Is there a fund being set up to help wish our Globespan friends a bit of Christmas cheer and help cushion the blow for our " colleagues in airmanship"? Mrs Bealine and I can't afford much, but we would certainly put a few quid into a PayPal account if someone would get one going!
Come on Ppruners - Let's Get Something Going!
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Cash is King
The simple truth in this game is that airlines spend the money they take today (for next years travel) on paying this weeks bills. Always has been so and ever will be.
Loss making airlines stay in business simply because they still have cash to pay people. They are not broke today, only in the future, if they cant carry people then who paid today, if you follow me....
They will of course because then they will use someone elses advance cash to pay for those bills...
The crisis comes when the cash stops flowing from the card people and suddenly there is no advance money to meet current debts.
Curiously, the US charter scene operates in much the same way this credit card company has operated and companies are denied access to cash until the pax have returned. They have got used to the scheme and work with that expectation in mind but when it is suddenly imposed on a business that was not expecting it, there is no way out.
As with everything else in this life recently it's the bankers and the money men who have shagged the rest of us and they didnt even stop to kiss us in the process!
Loss making airlines stay in business simply because they still have cash to pay people. They are not broke today, only in the future, if they cant carry people then who paid today, if you follow me....
They will of course because then they will use someone elses advance cash to pay for those bills...
The crisis comes when the cash stops flowing from the card people and suddenly there is no advance money to meet current debts.
Curiously, the US charter scene operates in much the same way this credit card company has operated and companies are denied access to cash until the pax have returned. They have got used to the scheme and work with that expectation in mind but when it is suddenly imposed on a business that was not expecting it, there is no way out.
As with everything else in this life recently it's the bankers and the money men who have shagged the rest of us and they didnt even stop to kiss us in the process!
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smell a rat ?
Hmmmmmm..... putting this:
together with this (from the Guardian online):
does make one wonder......
Halcyon Investment Corporation, which is controlled by the Cypriot credit card procession firm E-Clear, is negotiating a deal with Scottish Airline Flyglobespan.com to generate both upfront and future investments.
As attention shifted to the cause of Globespan's collapse, the administrator, PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC), confirmed it was also investigating why a "significant" amount of money from credit card bookings, thought to be between £30m and £35m, had not been paid to Globespan. The sum held back by payment processing firm E-Clear is thought to be about double that needed to cover sums which must now be paid out to credit card customers whose flights never took off.
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Hoping to not break the rules of PPRuNe Towers, but in these times of sadness and depression, and jobless individuals, I may be able to help.
Ops Controller vacancy, non airline, mostly GA, Essex based.
PM me for info.
Ops Controller vacancy, non airline, mostly GA, Essex based.
PM me for info.
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Very disappointing...
Like a few other of the users on here I too was in at the start working closely with all the directors even handling the first few cabin crew job applications and dotting the i's of the first finance lease. I don't see any point in hiding that I was in charge of the airlines finances from inception to launch and for a few months after launch and worked closely with all departments - there weren't many employees at the time so I can guess who a few people on the forum are. Hello I hope you are all well.
TD is a passionate person who I admired for his drive and ambition however his stubborn refusal to listen to anyone during this period resulted in a number of decisions which were ridiculous. I left as he was impossible to work for which was a shame as the people there were great.
He seemed to find it difficult to take any advice and let's not even mention his sidekick during this period who was a waste of space. If he had a better sounding board the Flyglobespan may still be here today.
I'm not going to get dragged into the legalities surrounding cgr and the AOC - which flyglobespan had to reactivate - I know the full details of what happened as I was in several of the key meetings with the CAA but some people need to move on. I'm not saying what happened was right or wrong just that it is in the past and I suppose what has happened may give you closure.
JF, KN and DH were old school but they were all fully dedicated to Flyglobespan. They were also good to work with and were certainly not shy of work.
My overall feelings tonight are sadness for the airline and its excellent staff and confusion as to how this could happen. Unfortunately this is TD's second airline that has collapsed and I think his goose is now cooked. I'm assuming the banks simply said no more.
TD is a passionate person who I admired for his drive and ambition however his stubborn refusal to listen to anyone during this period resulted in a number of decisions which were ridiculous. I left as he was impossible to work for which was a shame as the people there were great.
He seemed to find it difficult to take any advice and let's not even mention his sidekick during this period who was a waste of space. If he had a better sounding board the Flyglobespan may still be here today.
I'm not going to get dragged into the legalities surrounding cgr and the AOC - which flyglobespan had to reactivate - I know the full details of what happened as I was in several of the key meetings with the CAA but some people need to move on. I'm not saying what happened was right or wrong just that it is in the past and I suppose what has happened may give you closure.
JF, KN and DH were old school but they were all fully dedicated to Flyglobespan. They were also good to work with and were certainly not shy of work.
My overall feelings tonight are sadness for the airline and its excellent staff and confusion as to how this could happen. Unfortunately this is TD's second airline that has collapsed and I think his goose is now cooked. I'm assuming the banks simply said no more.
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Farewell FGS
It is sad that small enjoyable airlines like FGS have to go in this way. I worked for them for a while as a contractor and was let go with the rest of us at the end of October.
I was very happy there and sad to leave. Made some friends and all the staff were very good to me.
So farewell guys and girls and good luck to you all
I was very happy there and sad to leave. Made some friends and all the staff were very good to me.
So farewell guys and girls and good luck to you all
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GSM crews are still returning to the UK.
4 flew back to EDI on bmi last night.
I would never wish that on anyone. They where in uniform still. Not sure what they had brought into LHR or had paxed in.
Good luck to all at GSM.
I hope Unite well get it into their heads that airlines are not cash cows and dont have bottemless bank accouts cos we dont. Every UK could go bust if it runs into trouble and GSM is the lastest sad loss.
There is no Chapter 11 here!
4 flew back to EDI on bmi last night.
I would never wish that on anyone. They where in uniform still. Not sure what they had brought into LHR or had paxed in.
Good luck to all at GSM.
I hope Unite well get it into their heads that airlines are not cash cows and dont have bottemless bank accouts cos we dont. Every UK could go bust if it runs into trouble and GSM is the lastest sad loss.
There is no Chapter 11 here!
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My sympathy for all of you at Globespan.
When Skyeurope started to have problems last September(15 months ago),the crews did all their best to help out the airline,most gave up to a month salary concession while Eclear was holding back our money....
I decide to stay till the end just because the company gave me my first job in Europe and I just loved that airline and all its employees..
Eclear didnt send the money on time and only a portion of it(20 000EUR) they agreed to send on the day... Vienna airport deadline passed and the airport management stopped our operation which lead to our newly found investors apparently to back off and all to lose their jobs..
Fortunately,I secured a job 3 weeks later, however my total salary backlog over those 15 months amounted to 45 000 EUR without having added perdiems/expense claims...
So then i wished Mr SLIM ryan air offered me 100sterling..NOT! ryan feminine staff (you may know who im refering to)came TO OUR OFFICES(ground floor of our building)to tell us about ryan air.It still makes me sick.
Anyways...if you are a CAPTAIN and have 500 hours + on NG send me a pm and ill get you an interview in SE Asia for a great package.
Other airlines are hiring such as PEGASUS,JET AIRWAYS,JADE CARGO(second captain)....
Good luck to all of you...time to go where the sun shines
When Skyeurope started to have problems last September(15 months ago),the crews did all their best to help out the airline,most gave up to a month salary concession while Eclear was holding back our money....
I decide to stay till the end just because the company gave me my first job in Europe and I just loved that airline and all its employees..
Eclear didnt send the money on time and only a portion of it(20 000EUR) they agreed to send on the day... Vienna airport deadline passed and the airport management stopped our operation which lead to our newly found investors apparently to back off and all to lose their jobs..
Fortunately,I secured a job 3 weeks later, however my total salary backlog over those 15 months amounted to 45 000 EUR without having added perdiems/expense claims...
So then i wished Mr SLIM ryan air offered me 100sterling..NOT! ryan feminine staff (you may know who im refering to)came TO OUR OFFICES(ground floor of our building)to tell us about ryan air.It still makes me sick.
Anyways...if you are a CAPTAIN and have 500 hours + on NG send me a pm and ill get you an interview in SE Asia for a great package.
Other airlines are hiring such as PEGASUS,JET AIRWAYS,JADE CARGO(second captain)....
Good luck to all of you...time to go where the sun shines
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I can confirm it was EXC! TD closed us down a day before pay day!
Best wishes to all at GSM, but this industry is one step nearer to a 'nicer' place without businessmen like Dalrymple! Good riddence!
Best wishes to all at GSM, but this industry is one step nearer to a 'nicer' place without businessmen like Dalrymple! Good riddence!
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but this industry is one step nearer to a 'nicer' place without businessmen like Dalrymple! Good riddence!