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Old 19th Feb 2010, 14:14
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Hello
Travelling BHD-STN-SNN On The 30th March and SNN-LPL-BHD on The 4th of April, Its £72.00 at the minute, is Now The best time to book or if not when is?
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The Eircell one, EI-CJD from memory is a cabin trained at Dublin airport now. Quite a distinctive paint job!

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Old 19th Feb 2010, 14:40
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Ryanair are the most unpredictable airline for pricing.

However, their website currently includes March and April in their promotions so it probably is the best fare.

Is there a reason why Ryanair haven't run any 'free' flight promotions lately? They must be getting the load factor they need at their current fares I suppose...
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Old 19th Feb 2010, 14:44
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MUFF,

New corporate strategy - run it for cash, not growth. (Following the decision not to purchase more aircraft in December) Logically, fares will rise on that basis, commensurate with keeping the aircraft fairly full.
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Old 19th Feb 2010, 14:51
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Ryanair - at it again

Here we go again, poor people dumped at a strange airport and told to fend for themselves. Seems like the fares they paid match up to other charter fares. What ever the reason for diverting they should take care of their passengers

Ryanair 'abandons passengers' on wrong Canary Island after landing in thunderstorm | Mail Online
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Old 19th Feb 2010, 15:39
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Why didn't the plane just take off to Lanzarote again once the weather had cleared?
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Old 19th Feb 2010, 15:54
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Ryanair

Given the pax were given details how to claim hotac expenses, and then a free ferry crossing, what more could they do? Maybe airport ground staff/Ryanair agents could have assisted in the hotel search etc?
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Old 19th Feb 2010, 15:56
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someone must be lying since the report says no one was around to assist when they disembarked

hence they paid out of their own pocket
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Old 19th Feb 2010, 15:57
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Why didn't the plane just take off to Lanzarote again once the weather had cleared?
Thats my thinking too. Surely there would have been passengers waiting in Lanzarote for the return flight to the UK?

As always with the press, I get the feeling we’re not getting the whole story.
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Old 19th Feb 2010, 16:54
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Ryanair dump their passengers at wrong island

OK its the daily mail.
Ryanair 'abandons passengers' on wrong Canary Island after landing in thunderstorm | Mail Online

It would be interesting to know how long the thunderstorm lasted.
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You get what you pay for. Airline is safe for sure, but passenger handling is a direct result of people's willingness to fly for cheap and be taken from behind. Good for them..
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Old 19th Feb 2010, 18:48
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'Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to Lanzarote South Airport'
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Old 19th Feb 2010, 18:53
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What exactly did Ryanair do that's so wrong? Which of the following FR spokesperson's quotes is a lie?

Ryanair flight FR 4755, Bristol to Lanzarote, diverted to Fuerteventura due to bad weather in Lanzarote.

ferries were also affected by these high winds so passengers were provided with EU261 information which outlines their entitlement to provide receipted hotel expenses to Ryanair, for refund.

Ryanair arranged that the ferry company would carry affected Ryanair passengers to Lanzarote free of charge when ferries recommenced the following morning.
I don't know the details, but to anyone who thinks that they should have waited until they could fly them on to the original destination, I would say that I can think of several probable reasons why that was a non-starter. FCL, stand availability etc etc etc.

I don't suppose that Ryanair enjoyed landing them at the wrong place, and for the life of me I can't think what I would have done much differently, through the handling agent. The diversion was not FR's fault. Free hotel, free onward ferry when available, sounds OK to me.

Edit: Afterthought; OK, refunded hotel, not quite the same as free, and FR's legendary slowness and obstruction in producing the refund. But that's a sin they haven't yet committed for these people. so let's not get ahead of ourselves.



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Old 19th Feb 2010, 19:02
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Capot,

I haven't got the Lanzarote weather in front of me but anyone one else flying from the UK would have waited until the thunderstorm had cleared then flown to destination and either night-stopped and returned next day or used discretion to get back.

Not only were the outbound passengers dumped, I presume the return passengers are still hanging around on an extended holiday.

You get what you pay for; except Ryanair really isn't any cheaper than the charter airlines when you add in all the extras.

And I doubt if they will pay the expenses, they will claim force majeure.
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Old 19th Feb 2010, 19:04
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What exactly did Ryanair do so wrong? Which of the following FR spokesperson's quotes is a lie?

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Ryanair flight FR 4755, Bristol to Lanzarote, diverted to Fuerteventura due to bad weather in Lanzarote.
I don't think Ryanair did much wrong......apart from commenting on the wrong flight!

"The family had flown from Bournemouth Airport to Lanzarote on Wednesday and were left stranded along with dozens of other passengers."

If that is the case they would have been on FR6766 from Bournemouth not FR4755 from Bristol. Were the Bournemouth passengers given the same information as the Bristol pax? If they were (and Ryanair pay the expenses as promised) then I see no problem.

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Old 19th Feb 2010, 19:14
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I thought your ticket was a contract to fly you from point A to point B. Not point C. Point A can be say MAN and point B LHR. Your ticket is actually a contract to London, not a specific airport so you could be rerouted to LGW and that would be perfectly acceptable according to IATA. However to dump you on the wrong island and then (allegedly) leave you to make your own arrangements is pretty appalling really.
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Old 19th Feb 2010, 19:18
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'Ryanair apologises to passengers for any inconvenience caused by this weather related diversion but can never put passenger convenience before passenger safety.”

How long was ACE closed by the thunderstorm? Is there a website that retains historical actuals?
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Old 19th Feb 2010, 19:26
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the storms on the Canary Islands have been exceptionally rough this year. Have a look here
FOTO’S Zuidwesterstorm: ‘Adios Playa de Maspalomas’ at Gran Canaria: Hollandse Nieuwe. Artikelen en nieuws over Gran Canaria en de Canarische Eilanden
at the damage caused to Maspalomas on the day. The beach has been washed away and can clearly be seen floating as a soup offshore
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Old 19th Feb 2010, 19:35
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There was bad weather for much of the day yesterday. Several aircraft diverted.
Ryanair approaches ACE after a 5 hour flight, decides they don't like the weather (or it is out of limits) and, presumably not having the fuel to hold until it might clear, decide to divert. Just as anyone else would have done.
What were the crew then meant to do?
Sit on the ground going out of hours, in case the sun came out and turning a two sector day into a three sector day. If they had, they might have got the pax to ACE but there would have been no outward flight from ACE back to UK. It's next rotations from the UK would have been cancelled or severely disrupted as it sat on the ground in ACE for 12 or more hours.
So what did they do wrong?
Nothing except it was Ryanair and the Daily Mail doesn't like them
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Old 19th Feb 2010, 19:43
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Lexxity

Check the wording for Scheduled Airlines, it is a promissory note of an offer to transportation from point A to B, not a guarantee of said transportation. Charter airline carriage is a fixed legal guarantee for transportation from point A to B.

Look at the carriage rules & regs. I'm no lover of O'Leary air, will not board one of his
acft, but tis legal
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