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Old 9th Dec 2009, 10:48
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MOL is clearly playing a game, one that he will win simply because of the amount of orders he wants to place. Boeing wont pass up an oppertunity in this climate to sell 200 737s.
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It is not only Boeing who wants a customer for 200x 738s.. Ryanair also have to find customers willing to buy their 200+ 738s.

FR so far ordered 338 aircraft, 236 were delivered, around 200 in current operation. Even if FR will grow to 250 or even 300 aircraft fleet (which I doubt), they still have to dispose 200+ aircraft.
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Where abouts do FR's 737-800's get maintained/serviced? Do they have a huge facilty at a quiet airport?
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Old 9th Dec 2009, 12:03
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Most checks are done at Prestwick as far as I know with some of the more regular checks contracted out where the aircraft are based in mainland Europe
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I am suprised any airlines is looking at such a large order in a time when the airframers are looking at the Geared turbofan from PW and the LeapX from CFM. Jump in now and you could see a product coming in with a 15% fuel efficency leap in a few years time.

Also, what is keeping that Bombardier C-Series out of the equation? Looks an excellent fit on the face of it.
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GTF? Think they are looking for earlier deliveries from 2013.
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Old 9th Dec 2009, 12:55
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Like them or hate them.
Thats a impressive order in thee times.

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Old 9th Dec 2009, 13:06
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Callum, Ryanair have maintainance facilities and hangars at Stanstead, Dublin and Prestwick. All three facilities handle the regular maintainance of the fleet but most of the heavy maintainance is carried out at Prestwick.
Almost all Ryanair bases also have line engineering facilities, This is simply Engineers who look after the aircraft in service while on the ramp. They too can carry out routine checks etc.
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Old 9th Dec 2009, 14:28
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"So obviously Boeing accepted FR's price request but fine tuned another contract detail instead."

Could someone be having some fun with the kaiser of add-on charges? Boeing could go down the route of selling the basic model, but the GLX costs a wee bit more.
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Old 9th Dec 2009, 14:44
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As a sidenote: new flights from CRL to Ibiza, Nador, Seville and Zadar will start from 7th to 9th April and not in May like it was announced in the press release.
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Old 9th Dec 2009, 15:18
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Ailerons are an added extra!!!!
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Or they have to buy them online using visa electron.
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Old 9th Dec 2009, 15:38
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Ever seen Fred McCauley on Mock The Week with the MOL buying a pint of Guiness in a bar gag?
"That's 50p Michael."
"Yes that IS cheap."
"Well it's another £1 if you want a head."
"And £2 for the glass....."

Boeing should try the same approach. Sell him 200 737 with no engines, just leave it in the VERY small print...
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Old 9th Dec 2009, 15:45
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Maybe something to do with MOL not wanting the "baggage hold" option.

Getting back to the GTF powerplants, there was an article in Aviation week recently about Airbus making some sort of progress with the powerplant on the 320 family. They are likely to be ahead of Boeing with the next gen powerplant in anycase.

Air NZ are also to be the first customer with the new winglets.
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Old 9th Dec 2009, 15:51
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FR so far ordered 338 aircraft, 236 were delivered, around 200 in current operation. Even if FR will grow to 250 or even 300 aircraft fleet (which I doubt), they still have to dispose 200+ aircraft.
Absolutely correct to doubt that.

but most of the heavy maintainance is carried out at Prestwick.
FR don't do heavy checks: the aircraft are sold before a C check is needed. Keeps the costs down.
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Old 9th Dec 2009, 16:04
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FR don't do heavy checks: the aircraft are sold before a C check is needed. Keeps the costs down
Genius!
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Old 9th Dec 2009, 16:58
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dubh12000,

I'm also perplexed why Ryanair wouldn't consider moving to a next generation aircraft with more fuel efficient engines such as the Bombardier C series. The largest version is 149 seats which isn't small and would enable Ryanair to compete on thinner routes. A Bombardier/Ryanair deal would really make Bombardier a player in this segment of the market!
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Old 9th Dec 2009, 18:46
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Krakow expansion:
Madrid, Girona, Malaga, Charleroi and Hahn are mentioned.
We'd like to get Krakow back from Hahn, we have Wizzair to Katowice, but it's not the same. Back then, Hahn-Krakow was not around for very long. Strange with the aggressive expansion that Hahn gets so little of it, even cuts. Ryanair seem to like Weeze better these days. The German state of Northrhine-Westphalia is possibly happier to give even higher subsidies than Rhineland-Palatinate, who already sunk millions into Hahn. Operational loss is 15 million Euros/year, and erratic decisions by Ryanair regarding routes e.g. to UK don't help. OK, shouldn't complain too much, Hahn has a nice collection of routes and can probably be happy like it is. Just something not Spain or Italy for a change would be nice.
 
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If they don't want to use the cargo hold could they not add some stairs down to there, put extra seats in and make them into double deckers?
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Question......what happens to the aircraft they have at the moment? Who is in the market for RYR's (or anyones) second hand aircraft in this current economic climate?


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