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Old 23rd Oct 2013, 16:58
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Peel need to keep KLM (and to some extent Eastern) to keep the politicos' sweet so they get cut some slack on their development plans - oh sorry, I meant to say "to maintain the regions important global links for the benefit of the local economy"

Also, what are the odds of our gallant MP's and Councillors managing to persuade Peel to save the summer holidays of hard-working Teesside families?
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Old 24th Oct 2013, 23:14
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As long as Peel are happy to lose money hand over fist then let it roll !!
Err no ! short term loss, but long term gain !
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Old 25th Oct 2013, 07:33
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Heard there might be a ghost in the flying club, the lights go on and off in the night and smoke comes out of the chimney. Our burger chef might know something about that!
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Old 26th Oct 2013, 14:03
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Heard that plod moved out of hangar 1 because of asbestos contamination in there before removal work started.

Have Peel informed all of the "previous occupiers and workers" about the asbestos who have used Hangar 1 over the last 40 years?

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Old 27th Oct 2013, 10:50
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Anybody got a list of large companies which don't take advantage of government funding?

(Also, what a numpty question from that MP - he got exactly what he asked for, rather than what he thought he was asking for!)
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Old 27th Oct 2013, 12:16
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Err no ! short term loss, but long term gain !
Problem is Peel are loosing passengers at all their airports including Liverpool There's a lot to gain!
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Old 27th Oct 2013, 14:29
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Thomson seem to have dropped all flights for summer 2014 from Durham Tees Valley. While both Ibiza and Palma / Mallorca show up in the flight timetables,.availability seems to have been set to zero.

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Old 27th Oct 2013, 16:42
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There was a post claiming that Peel had cancelled all next summers charter flights, which has now been deleted.
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Old 27th Oct 2013, 16:52
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The mysteries of peel

Sorry am I missing something...how can and why would peel turn away guaranteed revenue .?

Surely any business is good and any revenue worth having? Has the jersey and Borges also gone?
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Old 27th Oct 2013, 16:55
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Depends if that revenue is costing you more than you're making - but I've still not seen an explanation as to how the Peel proposal to turn away IT flights would save it more than it would make.
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Old 27th Oct 2013, 17:36
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After going through the airport last week I was disgraced about the state for the terminal, I would g as far as to say it was ****E.
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Old 27th Oct 2013, 17:58
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If only the local councillors could turn the clock back to 2001 when Hughie the ex DTV MD recommended Peel as his favourite and only choice to take over Teesside Airport.

Which councillors decided to let Peel have Teesside for £500,000 in 2002 ?
Anyone know a Thomson rep who knows more about the latest news?

Could this be that Peel realise they havent got a chance of getting any RGF money so its time to implement the grand master 33 plan?
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Old 27th Oct 2013, 19:39
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Balkan Holidays do not list Durham Tees Valley as a departure airport for summer 2014. I have not checked the BH website in the past so do not know if DTV has been removed or was just never listed in the first place.
Correction - I checked only for July 2014, assuming that if an airline flew in summer it would include July. BH do fly in summer 2014, albeit not in July

My post was edited for good reason. People sometimes publicly make statements which they later regret as it may place them at risk of revenge by someone else in a more powerful position. It is often a good idea to show a little discretion when someone else feels concerned about their position. Please note the spelling of my name - it is not davy.

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Old 27th Oct 2013, 19:55
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DTVA is on the Balkan Holidays website for next year:

Durham Tees Valley Airport flights to Bulgaria

Ops Monday morning 4 August-1 September BGH5583/84 08.30-09.30
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Old 27th Oct 2013, 20:16
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DTVA is on the Balkan Holidays website for next year:

Durham Tees Valley Airport flights to Bulgaria

Ops Monday morning 4 August-1 September BGH5583/84 08.30-09.30
Hardly a program! - More ... an opportunist selection of peak period breaks! (Less than a month in duration)

On a more serious note, which I know will be controversial to the "die hards" of Teeside; DTV is a joke as an International Airport and the arguments against all aversity to keep it as a viable "major" passenger port in our North East region is only delaying its funeral ... and more importantly, delaying the emphasis which should be applied to Promoting Newcastle Airport as a true International Airport serving a greater population to a wider international market.

We can then resource better rail and Express coach links from Teeside and Northumberland (as proposed in the plan submitted by Lord Adonis)

The North East via Newcastle can then be as sucessful as Manchester is for the North West! - Please read Lord Adonis' report. All of Teeside could connect to Newcastle International Airport in less than 50 mins!! .... (Less than centre of London to Heathrow!!) - and would attract links to US, Asia, More of Europe etc... with its increased market / population capture area!



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Old 28th Oct 2013, 11:00
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Peel in the HMRC tax news again! Eurobonds.
Transport hubs in Eurobond tax avoidance controversy - 25 Oct 2013 - Accountancy Age
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Old 28th Oct 2013, 14:35
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Has the pulling of 2014 IT flights been confirmed then?

I did hear it mentioned as part of the business plan to "grow" the business but haven't seen anything official yet.

If this proves to be the case, this does really change the shape and direction of the airport - we start to focus on what makes money (presumably) and a diverse operation.

Looking at passenger numbers and wish lists for new routes will become a thing of the past....as it will be totally irrelevant.
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Old 28th Oct 2013, 15:37
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Hmmm, if DTV goes the same way as Sheffield Airport did under Peel, any interest in Peel will also go away if Sheffield was anything to go by.

No holiday flights means one thing, no passengers = no airport.
What a master plan

No comments in the press either?
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Old 28th Oct 2013, 15:47
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No IT...

North, I don't think things are that straight forward.

No IT flights does not mean no passengers and therefore no airport.

Whilst I am yet to understand the logic of how dropping them improves things, there has to be a conclusion made that the future has to be different from where we are now. And, for all the Peel bashing, I'm far from convinced that the future is based on a lo-co coming in or growth in IT flights - the world has moved on.

I don't want to lose the IT flights, but I would rather a business remain and if that means focussing on profit and diversity, whilst retaining some regionally important services like KLM, then so be it.

The future will be different (or there won't be a future at all).....
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Old 28th Oct 2013, 15:58
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Winners & losers !
All this hype about Peel !, it was made clear long ago on this forum as to what their attitude is.
Basically they develop land / property, the bigger the better, that is their business plan. Having "land banks" scattered all around simply assists in this model.
The current winner (if you can call it that) is Liverpool, where Peel have bought up a significant amount of the development land going, & getting in bed with the Chinese to bankroll the projects. There are grand plans indeed to renovate the docklands. Conveniently, Peel also own & operate LPL fairly near to the new development, & predictably there is no talk of anything other than growth all around.
Now take Teesside & specifically DTV which couldn't be any more different also owned by Peel then no development, no talk of regeneration down at Tees dock to speak of, & no Chinese (though that is probably not so bad !).
Do those at LPL share the same attitude as those on this forum?, I doubt it.
One could say that it's not actually Peel at all, but is simply all down to whether geographically, the area faces out to the East or to the West
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