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Just to go back to the facts 277 pax per flight during the worst month of the year is still over 101% L/F on a A332 high density. So with the A332 still on the route Emirates would have lost a load of late booking/high fare passengers as the flight would have been near to full all month!!
Never mind the extra freight the B773 gives.......
PS I don't work for Emirates or NCL but I do have close links to the route at work and do travel the route often, eleven times in the last twelve months!!
Never mind the extra freight the B773 gives.......
PS I don't work for Emirates or NCL but I do have close links to the route at work and do travel the route often, eleven times in the last twelve months!!
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With a 332 you wouldn't loose a load of high paying last minute fares. Any decent airline revenue management department would sell fewer cheaper advance fares to keep the space for the last minute high paying bookings.
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CB- Okay the A332 would not have been that full but that was just one month of the year. The B773/2 gives much better passenger service and gives Emirates much better options for growth. The aircraft is still full over peak holiday times, I tried to book a DXB-NCL this Easter I couldn't get a seat any class four days out of the last week of holidays!
Where would the extra passengers have gone with the A332?? KLM, BA or more likely to Manchester taking business away from the area!
The extra Business Class seats are helping as well my return BC in mid May was full!
It does not matter if I or any one else is happy with the route what does matter is Emirates are happy...... The A332 in booking engine are a glitch by the way.
Where would the extra passengers have gone with the A332?? KLM, BA or more likely to Manchester taking business away from the area!
The extra Business Class seats are helping as well my return BC in mid May was full!
It does not matter if I or any one else is happy with the route what does matter is Emirates are happy...... The A332 in booking engine are a glitch by the way.
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I tweeted BA about the flight reduction and the resulting longer wait at Heathrow and the reply back I received was "It's due to the flight loads, Philip"
Every time I have been on the route the flight has been choca block with passengers, so whether this is true I don't know but thought I would pass on thee response I got.
Every time I have been on the route the flight has been choca block with passengers, so whether this is true I don't know but thought I would pass on thee response I got.
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Ph1l1pncl,
I think the repy you recieved from BA was rubbish. The loads on this service are generaly good. Occasionally you get a quiet flight but I understand the average LF is about 86%.
Some of the ones they are cancelling are the busiest of the day.
Does not make sense from a passenger point of view.
An example of what is happening on some periods is the cancellation of the first flight from LHR.
So anyone flying in to LHR longhaul early morning will have to wait until about 10.00ish to fly up to NCL. A specific example affecting my family is a BA from HKG to LHR arr 04.50 meant to connect up to NCL at 07.20 which has been cancelled and passengers rebooked to NCL about 09.50. So thats a 5hr wait after the long ride from HKG instead of 2.5hrs. Not good.
The cancellation of the 09.20ish to LHR from NCL also is strange as its also a busy flight.
I think the repy you recieved from BA was rubbish. The loads on this service are generaly good. Occasionally you get a quiet flight but I understand the average LF is about 86%.
Some of the ones they are cancelling are the busiest of the day.
Does not make sense from a passenger point of view.
An example of what is happening on some periods is the cancellation of the first flight from LHR.
So anyone flying in to LHR longhaul early morning will have to wait until about 10.00ish to fly up to NCL. A specific example affecting my family is a BA from HKG to LHR arr 04.50 meant to connect up to NCL at 07.20 which has been cancelled and passengers rebooked to NCL about 09.50. So thats a 5hr wait after the long ride from HKG instead of 2.5hrs. Not good.
The cancellation of the 09.20ish to LHR from NCL also is strange as its also a busy flight.
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Ph1l1pncl,
I think the repy you recieved from BA was rubbish. The loads on this service are generaly good. Occasionally you get a quiet flight but I understand the average LF is about 86%.
Some of the ones they are cancelling are the busiest of the day.
Does not make sense from a passenger point of view.
An example of what is happening on some periods is the cancellation of the first flight from LHR.
So anyone flying in to LHR longhaul early morning will have to wait until about 10.00ish to fly up to NCL. A specific example affecting my family is a BA from HKG to LHR arr 04.50 meant to connect up to NCL at 07.20 which has been cancelled and passengers rebooked to NCL about 09.50. So thats a 5hr wait after the long ride from HKG instead of 2.5hrs. Not good.
The cancellation of the 09.20ish to LHR from NCL also is strange as its also a busy flight.
I think the repy you recieved from BA was rubbish. The loads on this service are generaly good. Occasionally you get a quiet flight but I understand the average LF is about 86%.
Some of the ones they are cancelling are the busiest of the day.
Does not make sense from a passenger point of view.
An example of what is happening on some periods is the cancellation of the first flight from LHR.
So anyone flying in to LHR longhaul early morning will have to wait until about 10.00ish to fly up to NCL. A specific example affecting my family is a BA from HKG to LHR arr 04.50 meant to connect up to NCL at 07.20 which has been cancelled and passengers rebooked to NCL about 09.50. So thats a 5hr wait after the long ride from HKG instead of 2.5hrs. Not good.
The cancellation of the 09.20ish to LHR from NCL also is strange as its also a busy flight.
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When i've thought again, i know this is all speculation however, but maybe with Richard Branson's affiliation with the North, Virgin Money taking over Northern Rock and the other things they have up here, it could work, and i would love to see VS aircraft at NCL - but i highly doubt it
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So what do VS "reps" look like, and when you say "in the area" where do you mean exactly?
Very odd comments, especially when your info says you are from Weymouth!?
So what do VS "reps" look like, and when you say "in the area" where do you mean exactly?
Very odd comments, especially when your info says you are from Weymouth!?
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So these "VS Reps" were nothing at all to do with the Virgin Money Cyclone challenge taking place (largest cycling event in the country apparently)??? It used to be sponsored by Northern Rock, but we all know what happened there!!
Is it just for the winter season?