NEWCASTLE - 8

[fl dutchman]

LHR

Note that the LHR from NCL has gone back to 6x daily throughout the summer and next winter.

[HH6702]

Gate maybe as they already handle eastern?

[skyman771]

HH6702
No one is arguing about this route ! merely considering the factors that may or not lead to it's success As I have made comment previously then I will only add that students & business pax are at complete opposite ends of the fare spectrum. This student market is likely to focused on various seasonal dates, noting also the substantial holiday periods. As with other university cities Durham being a prime example then the city to an extent closes down outside term time. N.b. there is also the issue as to limitation to the amount of baggage that students would necessarily wish to carry !
It would be a brave person to rely on any annual business model that relies on the substantial support of students.
Furthermore then in noting your comment :-

LOOK at T3 and some of there loads on the J41 you don't have to fill it full to make a profit.

then I would simply respond :-
" LOOK at T3 and their fare structure and it is obvious why! "
Not with standing any of this then I wish this service as I would any new route development from the area good luck, it is simply that in this instance I personally can't see that £250+ fares to OXF will appeal to many other than business users.

[HH6702]

EUjet - kent

Can anybody remember what the loads were like on the above route
A few years ago?

I see that flybe are starting edi to manston in may

What's the chances of flybe trying ncl to manston since once tried by eujet?

[GrahamK]

Loads from NCL to Manston were usually crap.

[Delta 8]

It was more than a few. F100's if I remember

[Jamesair]

Manston....I should have those figures somewhere.....I'll post them when I find them.

Pax figures are:

2005...March 392, April 1341, May 1449, June 849, July 708 end of service

[SWBKCB]

wasn't Manston often subbed out to an Atr-42?

[apaul]

The catchment area served by Manston, but not Gatwick must be fairly small. If Flybe offered Newcastle-Manston it would largely be competing with itself.

[HH6702]

Manston

Those loads dont look to bad for a daily flight with an airline that didnt really advertise. has flybe got the better suited aircraft and advertising needed for a route like this?

Just thinking instead of flybe adding a further LGW maybe a daily flight to manston. it would be cheaper landing wise rather that the big charges it will be paying at lgw. Some of the pax travelling to lgw may be heading further east of kent so travelling time will be less from manston?

Also see that flybe are trying bournemouth to manchester from may.
has any airline ever tried this route from NCL?
Could this route work from ncl without damaging the SOU??


What rumours are going around about any new routes from winter timetable?

[transwede]

Rumours surrounding Jet2 going to Servisair, which is all nonsense!

[HH6702]

Jet2 going to Servisair could be true. they wanted to go there in the beginning but wouldnt as they handled easyjet.

Servisair had the mail flights but then it got a little mad as to who had control over the ground equipment i.e steps etc.
so it all went over to swissport.

pity that servisair have got rid of most of there staff now!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jamesair]

Another good month for Emirates Dubai route with 13,430 pax carried in Jan 10, an increase of 12% on Jan 09/

Also Brussels, Copenhagen, Alicante, Barcelona, Malaga, Stavanger, Geneva, Murcia, Cork, Faro, Tenerife and Malta all on the plus side Internationally with just Aberdeen up in Domestic flights.....the bad weather and flight reductions took a heavy toll.

HH6072

Newcastle - Bournemouth was once operated by Dan-Air as part of its "bus- stop" route a long time ago.

[skyman771]

HH6072

Newcastle - Bournemouth was once operated by Dan-Air as part of its "bus- stop" route a long time ago.

Presume that this was also around the time that Dan-Air also flew NCL-MAN. Probably more appropriate to re- consider NCL-MAN as opposed to NCL-BOH, but then to some this will unfortunately be taken as heresy

[Jamesair]

NCL - MAN appeared in the GILLAIRWAYS timetable just before it went to the wall.

[10 DME ARC]

Gill did NCL-MAN for a lot of years used it a few times, up to four times a day at peak. Then gave it to European with there JS31's with a code share with Gill(??) as Gill were getting rid of the Shed's by then. European went and NCL lost the MAN and yes just before Gill bankers pulled the plugs it appeared back on the sch.
Nice to see a double digit increase on the DXB! Long may it continue......
Manston - always had 20-30's on a FK100 or AT42 BUT fares were very very cheap!

[MUFC_fan]

Great growth on NCL route - does anyone know how the loads in the belly are doing?

Are we expecting the A332 to remain for sometime? Could it be upgraded to it's new big brother which will be joining the fleet shortly or will frequency be increased?

[10 DME ARC]

MUFC - Last I heard freight is doing very well on the DXB.

[MUFC_fan]

Full of Real Ale eh?

[skyman771]

MUFC fan

Full of Real Ale eh?

And your point is ??? ....Perhaps you should appraise yourself as to the demographics of Real Ale production throughout the UK, there upon you may realise that this was a totally irrelevant and uninformed comment.