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A333
I also thought EK had ordered this variant and they were due fairly soon.
However on the airbus website the delivery/order spreadsheet shows
28 A332'a ordered and delivered plus 29 options. Could there be a
clause to convert these options to 333's?
It has been discussed on other forums but sometimes it is difficult to judge what is fact and what is fiction!
Pete
I also thought EK had ordered this variant and they were due fairly soon.
However on the airbus website the delivery/order spreadsheet shows
28 A332'a ordered and delivered plus 29 options. Could there be a
clause to convert these options to 333's?
It has been discussed on other forums but sometimes it is difficult to judge what is fact and what is fiction!
Pete
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There is absolutely no way that EK will put an A343 on the NCL - DXB even be it a one off!!! Although it provides banter on this thread it is also absolute nonsense !
EK are only interested in planned substitions on a marketing basis, not to keep a few "Reggies" excited ! An A343 is never going to be regular equipment on DXB - UK services due to the adverse ecconomics, and as well pointed out then there is also the issue of runway restrictions at NCL whether or not anywher near MTOW. I was unfortunate enough to suffer a late equipment change to an A343 on a recent PER-DXB (presumably near MTOW) & even on night time dparture at a temp c.15 degrees it took an eternity to lift !
N.b if I was in marketing then I wouldn't want to be showing off the interior of one of these monsters, now as to new 772LR, then that is a different option & IF an equipment change IS to be effected as a "One Off" next July then I would not look any further ...
EK are only interested in planned substitions on a marketing basis, not to keep a few "Reggies" excited ! An A343 is never going to be regular equipment on DXB - UK services due to the adverse ecconomics, and as well pointed out then there is also the issue of runway restrictions at NCL whether or not anywher near MTOW. I was unfortunate enough to suffer a late equipment change to an A343 on a recent PER-DXB (presumably near MTOW) & even on night time dparture at a temp c.15 degrees it took an eternity to lift !
N.b if I was in marketing then I wouldn't want to be showing off the interior of one of these monsters, now as to new 772LR, then that is a different option & IF an equipment change IS to be effected as a "One Off" next July then I would not look any further ...
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I wish NCL would put back the viewing terrace upstairs like it used to be. I used to go up there on a Saturday just to watch a/c take off and land.
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And where exactly do you expect the viewing terrace to be?? As there is no area upstairs in the terminal where it can be, as it is all airside and full of shops!!
Unless you have been able to visit roof level then you couldn't know that the roof level doesn't afford an airside view anymore. I'm quite sure he didn't know.
The view is marvellous from the original viewing platform.... grey industrial air con units, if you stand on your tip toes you can just about see the apron.
I wish NCL would put back the viewing terrace upstairs like it used to be. I used to go up there on a Saturday just to watch a/c take off and land.
Me too!
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And where exactly do you expect the viewing terrace to be?? As there is no area upstairs in the terminal where it can be, as it is all airside and full of shops!!
Unless you have been able to visit roof level then you couldn't know that the roof level doesn't afford an airside view anymore. I'm quite sure he didn't know.
The view is marvellous from the original viewing platform.... grey industrial air con units, if you stand on your tip toes you can just about see the apron.
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A major problem with Wings, is that the entire airport East of Taxiway Foxtrot can't be seen due to the Southside Hangars!
If someone could make it a Bar/Cafe with viewing again, then I'm sure it could be a success, despite the airport's reluctance to let anyone use it properly in recent years. For example, spotters were deterred from using the car park there when the airport put up the 10 foot wooden fence!
Besides, It's probably cheaper these days to buy a Ryanair ticket and not board the plane. Just sit all day in the warmth by the departure lounge windows..... Hahahahahaha
LJ
If someone could make it a Bar/Cafe with viewing again, then I'm sure it could be a success, despite the airport's reluctance to let anyone use it properly in recent years. For example, spotters were deterred from using the car park there when the airport put up the 10 foot wooden fence!
Besides, It's probably cheaper these days to buy a Ryanair ticket and not board the plane. Just sit all day in the warmth by the departure lounge windows..... Hahahahahaha
LJ
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If the airport are going to make a big deal of the anniversary celebrations, then I am sure there will be the usual family entertainment etc to be found and I would imagine some kind of area to view the 'special aircraft visitors' or what would be the point if joe bloggs cant see them?!
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I cannot see many people flying to Edinburgh as the train is frequent and will be quicker and more convenient city centre to city centre. The rail service is much slower to Oxford, but the flight is too late in the morning to suit business users.
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I must agree apaul. The only way it will work is if people are travelling for a connecting flight. It wont work when the train is cheaper, quicker and stops more central to both cities! NCL - OXF I can see possibly working.
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I would have thought that an Edinburgh Leeds Oxford Leeds Edinburgh route might have worked better as there is a demand for EDI LBA which BMi Regional are hardly addressing, especially some later timings. There is also no LBA BHX route which there is from NCL.
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I agree with Skyman77.....the Newcastle/Oxford leg is the important sector and any passengers picked up or dropped on the Edinburgh/Newcastle sectors are an added bonus.
This is not without precedent. The early Amsterdam - Newcastle route continued on to Glasgow until it was able to support itself, as was the early Newcastle - Copenhagen route which went via Edinburgh.
This is not without precedent. The early Amsterdam - Newcastle route continued on to Glasgow until it was able to support itself, as was the early Newcastle - Copenhagen route which went via Edinburgh.
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Newcastle to Oxford/EDI
Cant believe that some are arguing about this new route to Oxford/EDI and how ncl/edi sectors arent going to work!!!
I dont think the airport or the airline will be bothered about the NCL/EDI sectors. The route is solely to transport passengers between EDI/NCL and Oxford. EDI is selling well but maybe they dont think that they can fill an extra flight a day from EDI so they are now spliting the flight with NCL.
This is good news for newcastle students who are going to UNI down there.
It takes many hrs by train from NCL to Oxford.
Maybe when the airline gets its second aircraft and if NCL sells well then we may get our own flight and not being split loads with EDI.
I dont think the airline is targeting the business pax. THe route is targeting the students who are using the train at the minute.
If the route sells and they add a second flight one in the morning and one in the evening then yes it changes things as they will now be targeting the students and the business passengers.
As for loads we are talking a J31............. NOT A 149 seater 737!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If only 5-10 people board at NCL i think they will still be making money.
LOOK at T3 and some of there loads on the J41 you dont have to fill it full to make a profit.
Just because myself and some of you wont be using the service im sure that there is plenty of students out there that will be using the new service!
good look to the airline!!
I dont think the airport or the airline will be bothered about the NCL/EDI sectors. The route is solely to transport passengers between EDI/NCL and Oxford. EDI is selling well but maybe they dont think that they can fill an extra flight a day from EDI so they are now spliting the flight with NCL.
This is good news for newcastle students who are going to UNI down there.
It takes many hrs by train from NCL to Oxford.
Maybe when the airline gets its second aircraft and if NCL sells well then we may get our own flight and not being split loads with EDI.
I dont think the airline is targeting the business pax. THe route is targeting the students who are using the train at the minute.
If the route sells and they add a second flight one in the morning and one in the evening then yes it changes things as they will now be targeting the students and the business passengers.
As for loads we are talking a J31............. NOT A 149 seater 737!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If only 5-10 people board at NCL i think they will still be making money.
LOOK at T3 and some of there loads on the J41 you dont have to fill it full to make a profit.
Just because myself and some of you wont be using the service im sure that there is plenty of students out there that will be using the new service!
good look to the airline!!
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i agree the Oxford link is the important part, unfortunatly the timings don't allow a full day's work but much quicker and cheaper than the train, will almost certainly try it out, beats 4 hours on a cross country train 
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It is a shame that both the first flight of the day (to Edinburgh) and last flight of the day (from Edinburgh) doesn't call at Newcastle there by allowing a full day in the Capital (although I can probably see their reasoning behind it)!
I'm a regular traveller to Edinburgh from Newcastle and would have used that route regularly as I live minutes from Newcastle Airport!
I'm a regular traveller to Edinburgh from Newcastle and would have used that route regularly as I live minutes from Newcastle Airport!