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Sounds like T3 losing the battle at SOU vs Flybe. Hardly surprising, but a shame, as I use that service fairly regular now.
Will that one frequency be J41, or the S2000 from ABZ?
RTG!
Will that one frequency be J41, or the S2000 from ABZ?
RTG!
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So it was ten years ago when Gill Airways came out of administration and things were looking good for the airline with links to aberdeen, belfast city, dublin and london stansted as well as the paris cdg flight with Air France.
I wonder what the state of play would have been at Newcastle if Gill had survived:
Would the low cost carriers have forced them out?
Would the low cost carriers have even come to Newcastle if Gill were still here as Go only came once Gill had abandoned the Stansted route?
Would Gill be flying 737s as they dreamed and become a Jet2 affair?
Would the they have swallowed up by the likes of flybe?
Would Newcastle be a better position or not?
I wonder what the state of play would have been at Newcastle if Gill had survived:
Would the low cost carriers have forced them out?
Would the low cost carriers have even come to Newcastle if Gill were still here as Go only came once Gill had abandoned the Stansted route?
Would Gill be flying 737s as they dreamed and become a Jet2 affair?
Would the they have swallowed up by the likes of flybe?
Would Newcastle be a better position or not?
Would the low cost carriers have forced them out? Yes - Gill couldn't have matched their fares or had the brand recognition (outside the likes of us, nobody knew Gill existed - I know, I twisted those arms...)
Would the low cost carriers have even come to Newcastle if Gill were still here as Go only came once Gill had abandoned the Stansted route? Yes, see above;
Would Gill be flying 737s as they dreamed and become a Jet2 affair? Don't know, but probably not - they didn't have a Channel Express behind them
Would they have swallowed up by the likes of flybe? Probably...
Would Newcastle be a better position or not? I hope so, but probably not
Great questions - is it only 10 years????
Would the low cost carriers have even come to Newcastle if Gill were still here as Go only came once Gill had abandoned the Stansted route? Yes, see above;
Would Gill be flying 737s as they dreamed and become a Jet2 affair? Don't know, but probably not - they didn't have a Channel Express behind them
Would they have swallowed up by the likes of flybe? Probably...
Would Newcastle be a better position or not? I hope so, but probably not
Great questions - is it only 10 years????
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Would the low cost carriers have forced them out?
Would the low cost carriers have even come to Newcastle if Gill were still here...?
Would Gill be flying 737s as they dreamed and become a Jet2 affair?
Would they have been swallowed up by the likes of flybe?
Don't think there's room for a return to the UK market, sadly.
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Happy New Year All,
Living near Newcastle Airport it would appear that as soon as the ploughs clear the main runway and because it is snowing so heavily it just gets covered with snow again and that is before they start on the taxiway!
It certainly seems like the largest drop of snow so far this winter and the most prolonged!
And i'm assuming that under the snow is sheet ice that would have to be removed/de-iced too!
It looks like 'all hands to the pump' but this is a massive snow fall in such a short space of time.
Living near Newcastle Airport it would appear that as soon as the ploughs clear the main runway and because it is snowing so heavily it just gets covered with snow again and that is before they start on the taxiway!
It certainly seems like the largest drop of snow so far this winter and the most prolonged!
And i'm assuming that under the snow is sheet ice that would have to be removed/de-iced too!
It looks like 'all hands to the pump' but this is a massive snow fall in such a short space of time.
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Looks like EGNT has now reopened.
Just one question regarding departing aircraft after a closure, what is the etiquette regarding departures, is it according to their original departure time and the aircraft with the longest delay departs first or does it depend on the aircrafts final destination, length of flight or number of passengers on board?
Just one question regarding departing aircraft after a closure, what is the etiquette regarding departures, is it according to their original departure time and the aircraft with the longest delay departs first or does it depend on the aircrafts final destination, length of flight or number of passengers on board?
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Surely it's not ten years since Gill emerged from Administration, I would have said it was in 2001. In their hay day, I would say Gill had a lot more behind them than Channel express. If not but for the bank of scotland, where would they be now, who knows?
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Really down to who gets the aircraft de-ice rig first!
ATC usually are not that fussy - within reason they will take who ever calls ready to push (subject to slots of course.) With holdover times being quite short in snowy conditions the operation needs to be well co-ordinated or further delays & costly de-icing will be incurred.
Airlines may make a play for preferrential treatment if crews are nearly out of hours but normally its first ready, is first served.
Really down to who gets the aircraft de-ice rig first!
ATC usually are not that fussy - within reason they will take who ever calls ready to push (subject to slots of course.) With holdover times being quite short in snowy conditions the operation needs to be well co-ordinated or further delays & costly de-icing will be incurred.
Airlines may make a play for preferrential treatment if crews are nearly out of hours but normally its first ready, is first served.
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Thanks CA, which leads to the next question: do the de-icer rigs not go to the longest delayed aircraft first?
I was aware that BA1321 should have been the first departure of the morning but was no where near the front of the queue for departures when the airfield reopened!
I was aware that BA1321 should have been the first departure of the morning but was no where near the front of the queue for departures when the airfield reopened!
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That's right bob, I was there. The point was an earlier poster said it was ten years since Gill had emerged from Administration. They had been in administration for a year or so and had only recently emerged from it via a management buy out. Then after sep 11th the Bank of Scotland withdrew their financing forcing the company into recievership.
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I certainly am, it has been of late the most frustrating site that I have used. Even when home page downloads (eventually !), then it's serious hassle trying to obtain the dynamic links such as arrivals / departures. As I write this then these links are NOT working & really if they can't do any better then best close the site down until they can. Now surely they can not blame the weather for this?
If anyone needs flight info then they can save themselves serious hassle by simply using bbc, link below :-
BBC - Wear - Travel - Newcastle Airport arrivals
is anyone else having problems with the website at the moment, very slow loading, if at all? It's been a problem for me for a week or 2 now.
If anyone needs flight info then they can save themselves serious hassle by simply using bbc, link below :-
BBC - Wear - Travel - Newcastle Airport arrivals
