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Good post but a couple of comments. The overall BA figures to LHR seem to suggest a general growth in pax nos over the past months except NOV I think and DEC which was down a little possibly due to weather/threatened strike action. Of course we dont know where these pax are flying onwards to.
I think the numbers to CDG are down mainly as a result of a decrease in frequency by Easyjet. As I understand it the AF figures have gone up slightly, but that is hearsay at the moment.
The removal of the 10am ish AMS I think is the main reason for the pax no decline on that route. It has a detrimental effect on connections. So EK and others probably benefit from this. The official reason it does not fly is " slot restrictions at AMS". I think the load factor for that flight was generally about 90%. As I have said before seems an odd one to cut. However its back for the summer and we shall see what happens.
Of course there is now the Brussels Airlines service with onward connections. It will be interesting to see how that performs.
Dont think an extra EK flight is on the cards just yet but that could change if things pick up dramatically or the BA service goes for whatever reason.
Good post but a couple of comments. The overall BA figures to LHR seem to suggest a general growth in pax nos over the past months except NOV I think and DEC which was down a little possibly due to weather/threatened strike action. Of course we dont know where these pax are flying onwards to.
I think the numbers to CDG are down mainly as a result of a decrease in frequency by Easyjet. As I understand it the AF figures have gone up slightly, but that is hearsay at the moment.
The removal of the 10am ish AMS I think is the main reason for the pax no decline on that route. It has a detrimental effect on connections. So EK and others probably benefit from this. The official reason it does not fly is " slot restrictions at AMS". I think the load factor for that flight was generally about 90%. As I have said before seems an odd one to cut. However its back for the summer and we shall see what happens.
Of course there is now the Brussels Airlines service with onward connections. It will be interesting to see how that performs.
Dont think an extra EK flight is on the cards just yet but that could change if things pick up dramatically or the BA service goes for whatever reason.
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Viking are to operate some flights for Kiss Flights for Summer 2010 from Newcastle:
NCL - CFU 2/8 - 4/10 Monday 1540/2100 1100/1235 VIK3013/4
NCL - HER 3/8 - 26/10 Tuesday 1740/2355 1235/1500 VIK3023/4
NCL - RHO 4/8 - 27/10 Wednesday 1820/0050+1 1245/1520 VIK3033/4
NCL - CFU 2/8 - 4/10 Monday 1540/2100 1100/1235 VIK3013/4
NCL - HER 3/8 - 26/10 Tuesday 1740/2355 1235/1500 VIK3023/4
NCL - RHO 4/8 - 27/10 Wednesday 1820/0050+1 1245/1520 VIK3033/4
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Dont think an extra EK flight is on the cards just yet
I also think some of the posts talking of double daily or 777 upgrade is crazy wishful thinking plane spotter talk.
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CentreFix25, I agree. The A332HD is the perfect plane for the present. Although, I'd assume EK bosses would prefer loads to be higher. (Don't think they've ever been above 75% ave' yet?).
Would be a shame for NCL to lose EK, but as ever its a game of dont use it, lose it.
Would be a shame for NCL to lose EK, but as ever its a game of dont use it, lose it.
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Viking / kiss flights
Great news about the above being added to the list for summer 2010!!!
just have one concern?
Will be able to fill all these extra seats on sale this year to these routes?
Jet2 and now Viking have added the same routes on the same days?
lets hope jet2 are selling fast?
Anybody the aircraft being used for VIK?
one good think is that these extra flights only start in aug for the kids holidays
just have one concern?
Will be able to fill all these extra seats on sale this year to these routes?
Jet2 and now Viking have added the same routes on the same days?
lets hope jet2 are selling fast?
Anybody the aircraft being used for VIK?
one good think is that these extra flights only start in aug for the kids holidays
Anybody the aircraft being used for VIK?
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All the Viking flights will be operated on W-legs from Gatwick. However, the flight times have changed slightly and are now listed as follows:
Corfu - Mondays - 14.00/19.20 and 11.00/12.35
Heraklion - Tuesdays - 16.30/22.40 and 12.35/15.00
Rhodes - Wednesdays - 16.50/23.20 and 12.45/15.20
so it now seems that the aircraft will spend less time on the ground in Newcastle than was previously planned!
Corfu - Mondays - 14.00/19.20 and 11.00/12.35
Heraklion - Tuesdays - 16.30/22.40 and 12.35/15.00
Rhodes - Wednesdays - 16.50/23.20 and 12.45/15.20
so it now seems that the aircraft will spend less time on the ground in Newcastle than was previously planned!
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I understand that the NCL - Guernsey flts are planned at 2 x weekly (if they happen)
Looks like it is happening
Tues dep NCL 0830 arr NCL 1205 from 13th July
Sat dep NCL 1450 arr NCL 1825 from 10th July
I understand that the NCL - Guernsey flts are planned at 2 x weekly (if they happen)
Looks like it is happening
Tues dep NCL 0830 arr NCL 1205 from 13th July
Sat dep NCL 1450 arr NCL 1825 from 10th July
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Great news from flybe!!
Looks like MAN will get ek A380 from 1st sept.
That spares up a 777 for NCL and
Our A330 will be used to start the DXB-BRS route ??
Let's hoping anyway !!!
Looks like MAN will get ek A380 from 1st sept.
That spares up a 777 for NCL and
Our A330 will be used to start the DXB-BRS route ??
Let's hoping anyway !!!
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HH6702 - get a grip.
If we can't muster more than 80% LF consistently the chances of a 3 class config 777 is nil.
What is the obsession with this? move along....
If we can't muster more than 80% LF consistently the chances of a 3 class config 777 is nil.
What is the obsession with this? move along....
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That spares up a 777 for NCL
crazy wishful thinking plane spotter talk
Our A330 will be used to start the DXB-BRS route
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Let's not forget that Emirates is a global airline. A change of aircraft on the Dubai-Manchester route doesn't mean a spare aircraft for other UK destinations like Newcastle or Glasgow any more than for any other destination around the world. Emirates is opening routes to Prague, Tokyo, Madrid and Amsterdam this year, and may be considering adding extra capacity anywhere on its network. A fourth daily rotation to Shamshabad, perhaps, or a third for Kochi?
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Just an outsiders perspective here, but a few posts on here have said about CDG, BRU and AMS pax figures falling spectaculaly, could this be an EK stranglehold of sorts? Passangers that were using these services for worldwide connections at these hubs, may well of swapped to EK, but this surely has a knock on effect to the local business market for those wishing to do business in europe, especially when it results in KL dropping a rotation? And with figures dropping so drasticly as described, could it not be long until AF drops rotations as well (especially as they are same company as KL) or even SN (as per last post by ACARS 3 Pax on a monday) sure fun to have your own jet as such? but what are the long term implecations of such low loads.
I know its the quiet season its the same all over the country (45 pax on BRS-EWR) down here yesterday apparently, but when you have your bread and butter business routes and airlines losing so much traffic, surely this has to be worrying somebody in the management offices in NCL.
I know its the quiet season its the same all over the country (45 pax on BRS-EWR) down here yesterday apparently, but when you have your bread and butter business routes and airlines losing so much traffic, surely this has to be worrying somebody in the management offices in NCL.