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Definitely hoping for a few new routes, and I'll be slightly disappointed if there arent, but very pleased to see that all of the current routes have survived
Without wanting to speak to soon, here's hoping that Gdansk, Warsaw, Wroclaw and Madrid have survived the "touch and go"phase. It's generally accepted that if Ryanair aren't happy in the first 12 months they'll drop it. Fingers crossed!
Will easyJet get their skates on before they lose any more ground? If I were them, routes like Munich, Amsterdam, Paris, Venice and Milan would be key routes to get their foot in the door before FR. I'm sure that Madrid could have been an easyJet contender
Without wanting to speak to soon, here's hoping that Gdansk, Warsaw, Wroclaw and Madrid have survived the "touch and go"phase. It's generally accepted that if Ryanair aren't happy in the first 12 months they'll drop it. Fingers crossed!
Will easyJet get their skates on before they lose any more ground? If I were them, routes like Munich, Amsterdam, Paris, Venice and Milan would be key routes to get their foot in the door before FR. I'm sure that Madrid could have been an easyJet contender
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Came across a timetable for scheduled flights from NCL in 1983. Flights were:
ABZ - Dan Air (1 daily on weekends), Air UK (2 daily on weekdays)
AMS - British Caledonian (2 daily)
BFS - Dan Air (1 daily on weekdays)
BGO - Dan Air (1 daily on weekdays)
BHX - Dan Air (2 flights on Tue & Thur)
BOH - Dan Air (2 daily)
CWL - Dan Air (2 flights on Mon, Wed & Fri)
DUB - Dan Air (1 daily - not Sat)
GLA - British Caledonian (2 daily)
IOM - Dan Air (2x Sat, 1x Sun)
JER - Dan Air (1x Sat, 3x Sun)
LGW - Dan Air (2 daily on weekdays, 1 daily on weekends)
LHR - BA (5 daily weekdays, 3 daily weekends)
MAN - Dan Air (2 daily on weekdays)
SVG - Dan Air (1 daily on weekdays)
Scheduled flights were only Britain, Ireland and Norway - a far cry from today.
2 flights a day to Bournemouth stood out for me. Double dailies to GLA and MAN too.
ABZ - Dan Air (1 daily on weekends), Air UK (2 daily on weekdays)
AMS - British Caledonian (2 daily)
BFS - Dan Air (1 daily on weekdays)
BGO - Dan Air (1 daily on weekdays)
BHX - Dan Air (2 flights on Tue & Thur)
BOH - Dan Air (2 daily)
CWL - Dan Air (2 flights on Mon, Wed & Fri)
DUB - Dan Air (1 daily - not Sat)
GLA - British Caledonian (2 daily)
IOM - Dan Air (2x Sat, 1x Sun)
JER - Dan Air (1x Sat, 3x Sun)
LGW - Dan Air (2 daily on weekdays, 1 daily on weekends)
LHR - BA (5 daily weekdays, 3 daily weekends)
MAN - Dan Air (2 daily on weekdays)
SVG - Dan Air (1 daily on weekdays)
Scheduled flights were only Britain, Ireland and Norway - a far cry from today.
2 flights a day to Bournemouth stood out for me. Double dailies to GLA and MAN too.
The BCAL will have been GLA-NCL-AMS and the BOH would have been NCL-MAN-BOH with CWL and BHX in the mix on certain days - Dan Air had an extensive 'bus stop' domestic network on 748's (Avro not Boeing....), so not quite as weird as it looks.
Also there was a strict split between scheduled and charters, and never the twain were mixed....
Also there was a strict split between scheduled and charters, and never the twain were mixed....
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I'm surprised there weren't any flights to Paris in 1983. I know Air UK used to do it at some point in the 1980s, followed by Air France with TAT F28s. Also, either CP Air or Wardair would have been doing Toronto at that time, Wardair was definitely classed as a scheduled flight (the spin about Emirates being NCL's first long-haul schedule being untrue). Maybe this was a winter timetable? Schedules on your list cover UK, Ireland, Norway, Jersey and Netherlands btw (sorry for the pedantry )
Were Wardair schedules? My memory says charters, but you know what memories are like! (though much derided at the time by young spotters like me, having worked with them I found them to actually be an excellent company - far better than the likes of Laker, CP Air, etc)
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Yup, I definitely remember seeing them in the airport timetable. Flight number was WD180/181 (God, I must have been a strange child). I suspect that a lot of seats were sold in blocks to Jetsave and other travel agents but they were defo in the scheduled services timetable.
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In 1983 Wardair were given permission to operate scheduled flights between Canada and the United Kingdom where as before they were classed as ABC flights as in 'Advanced Booking Charters'.
In addition to the regular Wardair departure airports such as London Gatwick, Manchester and Prestwick at the time scheduled flights were permitted additional UK airports were added to their network such as Belfast, Birmingham, Cardiff, Leeds/Bradford, London Stansted and Newcastle.
Wardair had during that period quite an extensive network of scheduled flights between the United Kingdom and Canada and were renouned for their in flight service and hospitality.
Of course CP Air had a large amount of flights also from the regions but those were still ABC flights.
In addition to the regular Wardair departure airports such as London Gatwick, Manchester and Prestwick at the time scheduled flights were permitted additional UK airports were added to their network such as Belfast, Birmingham, Cardiff, Leeds/Bradford, London Stansted and Newcastle.
Wardair had during that period quite an extensive network of scheduled flights between the United Kingdom and Canada and were renouned for their in flight service and hospitality.
Of course CP Air had a large amount of flights also from the regions but those were still ABC flights.
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Interesting info, Canberra. From memory, I think the Newcastle flights at various times operated either via Prestwick or as a double drop with Birmingham, Belfast or possibly Cardiff.
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Flight No. was DAN 161 ABZ-NCL when I recalled it (it also used the flight no. as its callsign in a time when Dan used alpha-numeric callsigns on some flights) & 168 on the return evening leg NCL-ABZ. Don't know if the flight nos. changed on the NCL-LGW-NCL legs.
Usually with the 1-11.
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I recall this routing at weekends - I seem to think it also operated this routing on bank holidays but stand to be corrected on that.
Flight No. was DAN 161 ABZ-NCL when I recalled it (it also used the flight no. as its callsign in a time when Dan used alpha-numeric callsigns on some flights) & 168 on the return evening leg NCL-ABZ. Don't know if the flight nos. changed on the NCL-LGW-NCL legs.
Usually with the 1-11.
Flight No. was DAN 161 ABZ-NCL when I recalled it (it also used the flight no. as its callsign in a time when Dan used alpha-numeric callsigns on some flights) & 168 on the return evening leg NCL-ABZ. Don't know if the flight nos. changed on the NCL-LGW-NCL legs.
Usually with the 1-11.
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love a bit of Dan Air chat but can't believe I'm not the only one who remembers their flight numbers. My "favourite" being DA89xx, the positioning flight number with the last two letters of the aircraft reg.
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