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Old 18th Jan 2017, 22:17
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Considering AA's recent cuts at MAN and BHX I can't see that happening.
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Old 19th Jan 2017, 14:59
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To be a business friendly "global connectivity" service it would need to be one of the big American network operators to allow onward connections.

If you go with the likes of WOW etc what have they got offer over DUB, AMS, etc so you've got to ask whether they grow the market or just dilute your existing hubs.

Given the mention of Boston in this article, they probably have been talking to Norwegian (or thinking really long term JetBlue?)

John Irving, business development director, says transatlantic services are "not off the table" (From The Northern Echo)

Leaving aside NYC, some other interesting stuff in here.
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Old 19th Jan 2017, 15:47
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The likes of WOW and Icelandair can offer an option which doesnt require back tracking - so quicker journey times and connections to a variety of US destinations.
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Old 20th Jan 2017, 08:12
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Originally Posted by A350Saltire View Post
The likes of WOW and Icelandair can offer an option which doesnt require back tracking - so quicker journey times and connections to a variety of US destinations.
Probably mentioned before, clearing US customs at Shannon can make for a quicker journey, obviously a good flight connection is required.
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Old 20th Jan 2017, 09:43
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Could aer lingus add Shannon route ?
2x daily using ATR?
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Old 20th Jan 2017, 14:25
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Dublin also has pre-clearance with multiple flights a day.
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Old 20th Jan 2017, 14:32
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I'd love a Shannon route, having to treck to Dublin is a pain, but don't see it happening.
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Old 20th Jan 2017, 15:41
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Ryanair at one stage operated a route to Shannon from NCL for a short period.
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Old 23rd Jan 2017, 20:47
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TCX resuming a weekly Hurghada flight from November 6th
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Old 24th Jan 2017, 15:23
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Hurghada takes the winter Sharm el sheikh slot. Saves constantly having it listed then ending up with no Monday flight anywhere
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Old 27th Jan 2017, 00:44
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With hearing Ryanair have announced their Winter 17/18 flights, I thought I'd take a quick look. No change with the existing routes through March '18, all schedules reverting to the same winter schedule as W16/17

Polish routes look as if they're staying which is positive, good lead in time as well with over 12 months to book some.

Interestingly though, Mallorca, Girona, Madrid and Faro are not available after October. I would assume that at least Faro would stay on, 2/3 weekly in the Winter (in fact I would have thought they would all go year round, possibly excluding Mallorca). Would this, and the lack of announcement from either Ryanair or NCL, suggest that perhaps things are not quite final yet and there might be more to come?

Also just seen that Ryanair are increasing their presence at Malpensa. 2/3 weekly flights NCL-MXP with FR would be a good "meet in the middle" point over EZY to MXP or FR to BGO in my opinion.

I was also thinking, anyone think we might get Iceland this winter from Thomson?
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Old 27th Jan 2017, 07:30
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Ryanair have only put what was on sale last year on sale for next winter.
Don't worry they will announce what new routes will carry on through the winter when they release Newcastle flights 2017/18

Yes correct I'm expecting all on sale expect PMI also.
Expect a few increases also as they build up Newcastle.
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Old 27th Jan 2017, 07:34
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Same as I've said on the Belfast thread, don't be so confident that Ryanair will continue to grow.
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Old 27th Jan 2017, 08:06
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Totally agree there small growth.

Madrid to go 3 weekly maybe

Be nice to get Milan back and maybe Lisbon and another city break route which would be year round.
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Old 27th Jan 2017, 19:49
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I really hope we get growth...

My most optimistic prediction - presuming FR are happy with Gdansk, Warsaw, Wroclaw and Madrid... Is:

- Madrid goes year round, x2 weekly winter, x3 weekly S18
- Faro kept on x3 weekly through winter, then up to 5 weekly S18 (x4 S17 except August at x5)
- Alicante, Malaga, Lanzarote and Tenerife, no change, including S18
- Girona, remain x2 weekly W17/18, x3 weekly S18
- Polish routes stay at x2 weekly through to W18 when there *may* be a cull of at least 1, unless summer shows improvement, which it should
- Mallorca ends October '17, comes back daily in March '18, possibly x2 weekly winter '18

A handful, or all of: Budapest, Hamburg, Riga, Lisbon, Milan (hopefully MXP), Valencia or Seville, maybe Chania or Malta over the next 2 years. That would be nice.

Ibiza, Murcia, Fuerteventura, Corfu, Paphos I could also see them considering

Personally, I hope Stansted, Athens, Thessaloniki, Luxembourg, Marrakech and Catania are being looked at but I doubt it.

Realistically on the new routes front though I think Budapest and Milan will come online within the next 12 months... And I will be happy, and I think they will do well AND I think easyjet will be a little bit pee'd off. But unfortunately they will still continue not to respond and continue to lose market share until it looks favourable for them to drop NCL, blame it on brexit, Ryanair and Jet2...
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Old 28th Jan 2017, 01:02
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A very detailed prediction there, EK. I can see Milan (MXP) happening. Did Jet2 not start Budapest in the last couple of years or so, or did I imagine that? Places like Budapest are cyclical - they burn themselves out as soon as everyone in the North East who wants to go there has gone there. Riga and possibly Lisbon would probably be the same. Luxembourg is a really nice country, but I'd be amazed if anyone could make that work from NCL. And as I've said a few times on here, inbound tourism isn't big enough to even enter into the equation when we're talking about international routes.
Just one question, EK, and no disrespect is meant by this, but why do you think Ryanair to Malta would be nice? That would, imho ,put paid to Easyjet on that route.
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Old 28th Jan 2017, 08:16
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Perhaps we should restrict RYR predictions to those who got the three simultaneous Polish routes right?
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Old 28th Jan 2017, 08:46
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The CAA stats for December have now been published, traffic on the three Ryanair Polish routes has picked up nicely, Dubai is virtually no change on last year.
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Old 28th Jan 2017, 09:19
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SWBKCB that's none of us then!!!
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Old 28th Jan 2017, 09:44
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Not a bad set of figures

foreign_airport total_pax_2016 total_pax_2015 percent
BERLIN 4,309 267 1513.86
IVALO 1,035 296 249.66
TURIN 326 121 169.42
FUERTEVENTURA 3,653 1,617 125.91
BARCELONA 6,241 3,151 98.06
CORK 1,006 556 80.94
BRIDGETOWN 482 289 66.78
MALAGA 12,257 7,767 57.81
ROVANIEMI 1,258 818 53.79
ARRECIFE 11,044 7,184 53.73
LAS PALMAS 5,913 3,915 51.03
SOFIA 92 65 41.54
TENERIFE 20,664 15,214 35.82
DUBLIN 22,169 16,389 35.27

INNSBRUCK 224 176 27.27
ALICANTE 16,950 14,208 19.30
DUSSELDORF 4,540 3,838 18.29
PRAGUE 2,813 2,420 16.24
ENONTEKIO 378 335 12.84
MALTA 2,219 2,016 10.07
GENEVA 5,793 5,398 7.32
COPENHAGEN 2,098 1,975 6.23
KRAKOW 2,604 2,465 5.64
BRUSSELS 1,356 1,299 4.39
(NEWARK) 1,111 1,094 1.55
PARIS (CDG) 13,286 13,131 1.18
DUBAI (DWC) 291 0 0.00
FUNCHAL 393 0 0.00
GDANSK 2,437 0 0.00
GRENOBLE 160 0 0.00
HAMBURG 161 0 0.00
KITTILA 3,009 0 0.00
LILLE 39 0 0.00
LYON 39 0 0.00
MAASTRICHT 55 0 0.00
MUNICH 289 0 0.00
PAPHOS 1,147 0 0.00
WARSAW 2,700 0 0.00
WROCLAW 2,672 0 0.00
AMSTERDAM 30,136 30,149 -0.04
DUBAI 21,034 21,132 -0.46
FARO 2,144 2,535 -15.42
SALZBURG 324 460 -29.57
STAVANGER 679 1,094 -37.93
CHAMBERY 0 371 -100.00
GOTEBORG 0 8 -100.00
TROMSOE 0 47 -100.00
Inter Total 211,530 161,800
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