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Old 20th Nov 2013, 11:39
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I think APD has cut off any hope of YYZ returning in the forseeable future.

I see Qatar have announced EDI now, it'll be interesting to see if that impacts on EK loads at NCL and GLA.
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Old 20th Nov 2013, 13:30
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What have the loads on the Aer lingus Dublin flights been like?
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Old 20th Nov 2013, 23:04
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I don't think QR will effect NCL too much, I just hope EK doesn't go into EDI all guns blazing with a daily 777 starting before QR, EK like to do that...

Instead I hope that they compete away from EDI by increasing at GLA and hopefully NCL in a few years. Someone on a.net suggested an A380 to GLA. With the EK lounge being built there and all, is it a possibility?

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P.S would a fully loaded 737 700/800 get off the runway at NCL en route to St Johns?

EDIT: St Johns is closer than SSH, should be ok, still doubtful though.
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Old 21st Nov 2013, 16:06
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Don't go through if it's a cold day!

Passengers at nine further airports are to face full body security scanners, the government has announced.

The machines scan through clothing, producing a naked image of passengers so officials can check whether they are concealing anything.

Transport Secretary Patrick McLoughlin also announced that those who object to being scanned would be able to request an alternative, private search.

Currently, anyone refusing to go through the machine is not allowed to fly.

The nine additional airports where the scanners will now be in use are Belfast City, Bristol, Cardiff, East Midlands, Glasgow Prestwick, Leeds Bradford, Liverpool, Luton and NEWCASTLE.

BBC News - Full body scanners announced for nine more UK airports
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Old 21st Nov 2013, 16:41
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The machines scan through clothing, producing a naked image of passengers so officials can check whether they are concealing anything.
No they do not, the photo on the website is grossly misleading. That rather creepy image was from the V1 version. I understand the current machines have a computer rendered Simpsons type cartoon image that displays as a little yellow flashing spot on the CARTOON body, any areas of interest.
They are not looking at your private parts!

It's a media led story which ought not to stand up to a moments scrutiny.
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Old 21st Nov 2013, 16:44
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I'd be all in favour of technology if it meant they could relax some of the rules and ditch the silly belts off, laptops out, shoes off, show your liquids etc etc.
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Old 21st Nov 2013, 16:59
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Ash666

I am 100% with you.
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Old 21st Nov 2013, 19:09
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Me too, and having recently had a bad experience with a very obnoxious young lady at NCL who was insistent ALL electrical equipment needed to be removed from hand luggage including phones, mp3 players, games, kindles etc. not just laptops, when I asked when the rules had changed I was told in no uncertain terms to comply with her request or not fly!
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Old 21st Nov 2013, 20:00
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And yet some airports don't ask you to take laptops out of your bag at all.

I genuinely forgot a few years ago, twice, to take the fluids out of my hand luggage and the scanners didn't spot them so what is the point???
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Old 22nd Nov 2013, 05:47
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DH9 - It seems to be a NCL thing all electronic items?? Don't ask me why all other airports I use only ask for laptop!! Could it be equipment related??
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Old 22nd Nov 2013, 10:56
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they're not quicker - in the current system you walk through a doorway and,if you are lucky, that is that and you keep walking to collect your carry on stuff from the xray scanner belt

The new scanners mean EVERYONE has to walk in, stand with their hands in the air for about 10 seconds and then exit - it doesn't sound like much but it really slows the flow
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Old 23rd Nov 2013, 15:50
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Looks like TOM1659 from LIS has been diverted to us and isn't going to MAN. Anyone know why? No problems at MAN and not exactly local.
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Old 23rd Nov 2013, 15:56
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It's not a MAN flight. The TOM flights within the EU to/from MAN are TOM2xxx. NCL flights are TOM1xxx, BHX & EMA are TOM7xxx, etc.
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Old 23rd Nov 2013, 16:51
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Yes, it is a MAN flight. It left MAN this morning to do MAN-LIS.

No LIS flight from NCL so it's came from somewhere... And I'm pretty sure it's MAN!
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Old 23rd Nov 2013, 17:28
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then can you say why this flight does not appear on the MAN arrivals board but on the NCL arrivals board?

These are the TOM flights that arrived at MAN from Lisbon.

TOM2679 14:25 Lisbon Arrived 15:35
TOM2697 14:45 Lisbon Arrived 16:07

Just because it may have left MAN this morning does not mean it will return to MAN.
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Old 23rd Nov 2013, 17:44
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I'm not saying it's just MAN, I know it could have been scheduled to return to a different airport instead of MAN. I was only making the assumption of it being diverted from MAN, which I probably shouldn't have, because it departed from there this morning. I understand your point and I should have perhaps worded my post better.

I am, however, almost certain TOM do not fly to LIS from NCL. So if anybody could shed any light of why it's came to us, please do.
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Old 23rd Nov 2013, 18:00
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Thomson don't (normally) fly to Manchester either, so perhaps the Lisbon-UK routes are cruise charters?
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Old 23rd Nov 2013, 20:12
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The LIS flight was on the NCL arrival board last night so it is 100% scheduled to NCL
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Old 24th Nov 2013, 07:09
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Lisbon.

They were one off cruise flights for a Thomson ship, pax both ways.
1 x GLA
1x BHX
2 x LGW
3x MAN

Mostly 757 s , that's it.
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Old 24th Nov 2013, 09:55
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So where was the NCL arrival scheduled to go?
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