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Oh not this again
Loadings 6% up on February 2012
More space for cargo and hopefully see these figures at some point
From what I've heard more business and first class seats sold year on year
Outcome - very good and making money!!
Lets all remember you don't need to fully fill an aircraft to make money!!
Loadings 6% up on February 2012
More space for cargo and hopefully see these figures at some point
From what I've heard more business and first class seats sold year on year
Outcome - very good and making money!!
Lets all remember you don't need to fully fill an aircraft to make money!!
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HH6702 is probably using the fact Newcastle get a sigificant amount three class 777's and in fact have not seen any 2 class versions this month at all and at least ten three class in March.
However BHX often sees the three class versions during low season and Ramadan and first is not sold.
The fact that three class versions are used is not a good sign but as it has been pointed out it does not mean that money is not being made.
Emirates at times give out conflicting information that some local loco's would be proud off, saying first is doing well in some markets quickly followed by an article stating it was not required on a lot of routes and after a couple of years of three class versions the majority of the new aircraft in the last six months have been two class.
As for the viability of the NCL route as a two class 428 seat 777 who knows, other than the EK beancounters
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HH6702 - rough count about 30, so one third three class.
HH6702 is probably using the fact Newcastle get a sigificant amount three class 777's and in fact have not seen any 2 class versions this month at all and at least ten three class in March.
However BHX often sees the three class versions during low season and Ramadan and first is not sold.
The fact that three class versions are used is not a good sign but as it has been pointed out it does not mean that money is not being made.
Emirates at times give out conflicting information that some local loco's would be proud off, saying first is doing well in some markets quickly followed by an article stating it was not required on a lot of routes and after a couple of years of three class versions the majority of the new aircraft in the last six months have been two class.
As for the viability of the NCL route as a two class 428 seat 777 who knows, other than the EK beancounters
Pete
HH6702 - rough count about 30, so one third three class.
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From today's Journal (my underlining):
“I’m backing the region to haul itself out of recession,” said Mr Berryman, vice-president of Emirates UK. “We believe in the North East of England.” Launching a new, larger Boeing 777-300ER aircraft on the firm’s daily service to Dubai last September, Mr Berryman said he hoped the route, which in the last five years has helped increase trade between the North East and Australasia from less than Ł150m a year to more than Ł275m, might grow by around 15% this year.
But the latest figures suggest businesses and holidaymakers are capitalising on the increased capacity, with the number of flyers in March up by 30% compared to the same period a year ago. If such demand continued, that could mean an extra 24,000 people winging their way to and from the region in 2013, bringing millions of pounds into the local economy.
“March has been excellent, the best we’ve ever had out of Newcastle,” said Mr Berryman. “We carried over 200 tons of cargo from Newcastle for the first time. When you say it like that it doesn’t seem a lot but that’s 200,000kg out of Newcastle in 31 days. I think more and more companies are realising that rather than take products all the way to Heathrow it is much easier to fly from the regions."
“And Newcastle’s catchment area is growing. I’ve been talking to the drivers who bring our business-class passengers to the airport and more and more they are bringing people from the west, places like Carlisle; people are coming to Newcastle rather than heading down to Manchester.”
But the latest figures suggest businesses and holidaymakers are capitalising on the increased capacity, with the number of flyers in March up by 30% compared to the same period a year ago. If such demand continued, that could mean an extra 24,000 people winging their way to and from the region in 2013, bringing millions of pounds into the local economy.
“March has been excellent, the best we’ve ever had out of Newcastle,” said Mr Berryman. “We carried over 200 tons of cargo from Newcastle for the first time. When you say it like that it doesn’t seem a lot but that’s 200,000kg out of Newcastle in 31 days. I think more and more companies are realising that rather than take products all the way to Heathrow it is much easier to fly from the regions."
“And Newcastle’s catchment area is growing. I’ve been talking to the drivers who bring our business-class passengers to the airport and more and more they are bringing people from the west, places like Carlisle; people are coming to Newcastle rather than heading down to Manchester.”
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Actually, by way of a tangential plug / opportunity, I have the said Mr Berryman at an event I organise on 17th April at Newcastle Falcons doing a keynote on the importance of the regions and customer service.
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Thanks everyone for dealing with the query on my Emirates figures for February.
I'm waiting with great interest for the March figures (one fact that should have helped with the increase is that Easter fell in March this year and in April last year).
I'm waiting with great interest for the March figures (one fact that should have helped with the increase is that Easter fell in March this year and in April last year).
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Can't wait to see these figures either... By the sounds of things they should be very good..
Pity we can't compare the cargo month by month !!
Sounds to me the flight is doing very well.
Maybe EK should make NCL a 3 class flight from now on maybe people can afford first class but not business so since first isn't offered and they can't afford business they travel economy class??
Can't wait to see these figures either... By the sounds of things they should be very good..
Pity we can't compare the cargo month by month !!
Sounds to me the flight is doing very well.
Maybe EK should make NCL a 3 class flight from now on maybe people can afford first class but not business so since first isn't offered and they can't afford business they travel economy class??
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Was recently at an event where Laurie Berrymen did a pre-dinner speech about the history and future of Emirates, really fascinating and he seems like a really down to earth bloke.
HH First class is usually a lot more expensive than business so if they cannot afford business they certainly won't be able to afford first
HH First class is usually a lot more expensive than business so if they cannot afford business they certainly won't be able to afford first
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Maybe EK should make NCL a 3 class flight from now on maybe people can afford first class but not business so since first isn't offered and they can't afford business they travel economy class??
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Whilst on ref EK then yesterday not a good day for them at NCL
. 4 Hour delay on EK36 due to a hydraulic leak caused mayhem on their onward connections through DXB with potentially over 50% of the pax transiting. Incidentally the aircraft in question was a 2 class & re. pax 95% full.
As for days when a 3 class aircraft IS operated , then EK don't sell the 1st section, it being "closed off".
Hope this resolves some of the recent tosh posted.
. 4 Hour delay on EK36 due to a hydraulic leak caused mayhem on their onward connections through DXB with potentially over 50% of the pax transiting. Incidentally the aircraft in question was a 2 class & re. pax 95% full.As for days when a 3 class aircraft IS operated , then EK don't sell the 1st section, it being "closed off".
Hope this resolves some of the recent tosh posted.
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