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Unless they are introduced by tour operators through sales of package tours, I would very much doubt it in the current economic climate. Currently we have on the charter side Cancun, Orlando and Toronto and of course the scheduled EK DXB service. We recently lost frequency on some fo the charter routes and PUJ was pulled all together. However, this winter has been big for cruise charters with sporadic departures to Barbados, La Romana and Santa Domingo.
IMHO I would say any new long haul routes are atleast 2-3 years away, but I could be wrong?? Maybe the 787, when eventually introduced may give hope??
IMHO I would say any new long haul routes are atleast 2-3 years away, but I could be wrong?? Maybe the 787, when eventually introduced may give hope??
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I notice that Ryanair's latest press statement says that if the Tourist Tax was removed they would re-instate all the flights to be cancelled at Dublin and Shannon.
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It's strange that during this economic downturn and reduction of flights/operators from NCL we have a huge amount of construction work going on landside. Alongside the new onsite hotel which is almost finished and the construction of the Petrol Station advancing.The Britannia hotel has now put in a planning application to double the size of its onsite hotel. There is obviously quite some demand for rooms yet at the same time we are seeing pax numbers fall ..
hmm ...
hmm ...
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But surely NCL is now going to be massively underserved to DUB.
Up until recently you could book yourself onto about 22 or 23 flights a week, now we're down to just nine. That's a huge cut. The timings are also atrocious when there is only one flight a day.
The economy has slowed but it hasn't stopped altogether. After SNN, Oslo, BGY it is obvious Ryanair simply does not like NCL.
Up until recently you could book yourself onto about 22 or 23 flights a week, now we're down to just nine. That's a huge cut. The timings are also atrocious when there is only one flight a day.
The economy has slowed but it hasn't stopped altogether. After SNN, Oslo, BGY it is obvious Ryanair simply does not like NCL.
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The hotel industry has to look well ahead and project the number of rooms required in, say five/ten years time when, hopefully the airport will be once again on a growth tack. Hence decisions to build/extend have to be taken and executed well in advance.
The hotel industry has to look well ahead and project the number of rooms required in, say five/ten years time when, hopefully the airport will be once again on a growth tack. Hence decisions to build/extend have to be taken and executed well in advance.
German airline bosses’ joy as numbers rise
Mar 7 2009 by Adam Jupp, The Journal
A GERMAN airline has reported soaring numbers of passengers using Newcastle International Airport. In a boost for The Journal’s Think North East First campaign, Lufthansa says more than 75% more people chose their service from Newcastle to Dusseldorf last year.
The carrier puts the huge increase down to the fact it doubled the number of daily flights to the German city in 2008. Business leaders have taken advantage of the service to take meetings on the continent, as well as connecting with flights to destinations across the globe.
Marianne Sammann, Lufthansa’s General Manager for the UK & Ireland, travelled to Tyneside to reveal the 78.4% rise in passenger figures. She said: “We feel this is a great success story as it goes against what we are seeing nationally, where passenger figures are slightly down. Of course, we launched a second daily flight, so we expected a slight rise, but to see a 78.4% is amazing, especially in the current climate. We feel this shows the people of the North East are prepared to back their local airport and we also put the success down to the service we offer for competitive prices.”
Lufthansa came to Newcastle International Airport in 1996, but increased its presence last year, adding a second daily service to Dusseldorf. In 2007, 20,472 flew to the German city from Tyneside but that increased to 35,526 in 2008. Dusseldorf acts as a strong hub destination for onward flights to Europe and beyond.
The most popular connection locations for people flying out of Newcastle are Dresden, Berlin, Munich and Hamburg but places like New York and Ho Chi Minh City also do well.
Ms Sammann said Lufthansa had no immediate plans to add further routes to their portfolio from Newcastle but the situation would be monitored closely.
She said: “We recently saw bmi pull out of Durham Tees Valley and so we think there is a strong chance North East customers will see our flights as a way to connect with destinations previously served by the bmi service.”
Graeme Mason, head of planning and corporate affairs at Newcastle International, said: “We’re very pleased to have the twice daily Lufthansa service to Dusseldorf. This is a major German airport and a key hub for access to destinations worldwide. The business connections this route provides to the North East region are vital in these tough economic times.”
The carrier puts the huge increase down to the fact it doubled the number of daily flights to the German city in 2008. Business leaders have taken advantage of the service to take meetings on the continent, as well as connecting with flights to destinations across the globe.
Marianne Sammann, Lufthansa’s General Manager for the UK & Ireland, travelled to Tyneside to reveal the 78.4% rise in passenger figures. She said: “We feel this is a great success story as it goes against what we are seeing nationally, where passenger figures are slightly down. Of course, we launched a second daily flight, so we expected a slight rise, but to see a 78.4% is amazing, especially in the current climate. We feel this shows the people of the North East are prepared to back their local airport and we also put the success down to the service we offer for competitive prices.”
Lufthansa came to Newcastle International Airport in 1996, but increased its presence last year, adding a second daily service to Dusseldorf. In 2007, 20,472 flew to the German city from Tyneside but that increased to 35,526 in 2008. Dusseldorf acts as a strong hub destination for onward flights to Europe and beyond.
The most popular connection locations for people flying out of Newcastle are Dresden, Berlin, Munich and Hamburg but places like New York and Ho Chi Minh City also do well.
Ms Sammann said Lufthansa had no immediate plans to add further routes to their portfolio from Newcastle but the situation would be monitored closely.
She said: “We recently saw bmi pull out of Durham Tees Valley and so we think there is a strong chance North East customers will see our flights as a way to connect with destinations previously served by the bmi service.”
Graeme Mason, head of planning and corporate affairs at Newcastle International, said: “We’re very pleased to have the twice daily Lufthansa service to Dusseldorf. This is a major German airport and a key hub for access to destinations worldwide. The business connections this route provides to the North East region are vital in these tough economic times.”
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Forget about it!!!!. There isn't the demand to support a daily 777 nor twice daily on the A332 in the current climate.
There aren't any mail flights on a Sunday
On a more positive note, we have a brand new runway
Forget about it!!!!. There isn't the demand to support a daily 777 nor twice daily on the A332 in the current climate.
There aren't any mail flights on a Sunday
On a more positive note, we have a brand new runway
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Tomorrow (Sunday) seems to be unusually busy for Jet2 with 7 departures on the board....excluding the mail flights.
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With the current 2 daily RYR and the almost daily EI, I believe there is over capacity on the route. However with EI going and RYR down to once on most days, it has gone from one extreme to another with massive under capacity.
The pax numbers on this route should easily support 2 daily flights. However because of the 3 flights and overcapacity the yields could currently be lower and make the routes unprofitable due to dilution of income by lowering fares in light of the competition.
The timing of the remaining RYR flights are not good for a once daily service, this and a no day return facility will hit pax nos hard.
Hopefully things will return to normal one day.
The pax numbers on this route should easily support 2 daily flights. However because of the 3 flights and overcapacity the yields could currently be lower and make the routes unprofitable due to dilution of income by lowering fares in light of the competition.
The timing of the remaining RYR flights are not good for a once daily service, this and a no day return facility will hit pax nos hard.
Hopefully things will return to normal one day.
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One offs, I suspect to meet up with cruise ships.
You will get a lot of your questions answered here...
Newcastle Airport - Timetables
You will get a lot of your questions answered here...
Newcastle Airport - Timetables
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At last a sensible comment ! back to reality !
Dublin Despite all the conjecture as to capacity decrease on this route & the predictable 'pops' at RYR, then I have every reason to suggest that this route simply does not make money. I have strong business connections with Eire and many of my colleagues travel regularly, myself more occasionally and can make the following observation that although LF's are normally fairly high 70% plus, the yield in revenue must be very low as seat costs are invariably rock bottom even when booked with as little as two weeks notice. I fear that what one will notice with the drop in capacity is that "reality" will return to pricing on this route. The business traveler will pay more, LF's will also increase and if there are a few who are unable to travel, then I doubt it will be RYR's loss as these will simply be at the low revenue end leisure pax.
From another view point, then the best solution one could ever hope for is for EI to run services both in & outbound to connect with EI's DUB transatlantic services, a considerable area for traffic growth with good marketing. But then this seems to "off the radar" to the management at EI for whatever reason & even less likely with RYR on the route
EK 777 Forget about it!!!!. There isn't the demand to support a daily 777 nor twice daily on the A332 in the current climate
Dublin Despite all the conjecture as to capacity decrease on this route & the predictable 'pops' at RYR, then I have every reason to suggest that this route simply does not make money. I have strong business connections with Eire and many of my colleagues travel regularly, myself more occasionally and can make the following observation that although LF's are normally fairly high 70% plus, the yield in revenue must be very low as seat costs are invariably rock bottom even when booked with as little as two weeks notice. I fear that what one will notice with the drop in capacity is that "reality" will return to pricing on this route. The business traveler will pay more, LF's will also increase and if there are a few who are unable to travel, then I doubt it will be RYR's loss as these will simply be at the low revenue end leisure pax.
From another view point, then the best solution one could ever hope for is for EI to run services both in & outbound to connect with EI's DUB transatlantic services, a considerable area for traffic growth with good marketing. But then this seems to "off the radar" to the management at EI for whatever reason & even less likely with RYR on the route
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It would not be unexpected for them to make job cuts, but I suspect the redundancies made were due to restructuring in order to save costs. NIA are not the only ones who have or who are making cuts - both Servisair and Swissport have made staffing cuts. Overall the airport has predicted a drop in passenger numbers, but in reality IMHO I think this maybe due to lower loads on flights, as we do not seem to have lost a substantial amount fo flights overall or have we? I know EZY/FR/EI have or will drop a few routes/sectors, but is there more?