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If you look at the press release from Spanair, they say they're filling a gap for MAD services between 'Liverpool and the Watford Gap' (i.e. Luton). Yes, MAN might have been their first port of call, had it not been for U2 at LPL.
If you look at the press release from Spanair, they say they're filling a gap for MAD services between 'Liverpool and the Watford Gap' (i.e. Luton). Yes, MAN might have been their first port of call, had it not been for U2 at LPL.
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There is a lot of speculation that Ryanair are to operate
the BA shuttle from Manchester over the strike period -
anybody know for sure about this?
I know 100% for sure, but in all honesty the strike will be called off before it happens anyway.
the BA shuttle from Manchester over the strike period -
anybody know for sure about this?
I know 100% for sure, but in all honesty the strike will be called off before it happens anyway.
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British Airways has chartered 3 Ryanair Boeing 737-800s to operate domestic flights from London Gatwick to Edinburgh (3 a Day), Glasgow (3 a Day) and Manchester (4 a Day). All three aircraft will night-stop at Gatwick and will be used on 20,21 & 22 March
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Hi Shed-on-a-Pole
Look what you've done mate!
After your excellent recent post about BA ditching the Domestics, they've gone and jumped into bed with the Ryans
Cheers!
PS. Appreciate any direct routings for KLM on Saturday, it's time to come home and stock up at Primark. Don't laugh too loud!
Look what you've done mate!
After your excellent recent post about BA ditching the Domestics, they've gone and jumped into bed with the Ryans
Cheers!
PS. Appreciate any direct routings for KLM on Saturday, it's time to come home and stock up at Primark. Don't laugh too loud!
I know 100% for sure, but in all honesty the strike will be called off before it happens anyway.
It was nice of the BBC this morning to let us know that all BA international flights from MAN will be unaffected.
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At least during this period of BA D isruption their paxs will be happy to fly on modern state of the art NEW B737-800s rather than the old clapped out -400 bangers.
Sure Willie and Mick party together sometimes seen in Malahide, old friends Im sure from the Rocca days!
Ryanair ......... surely the Worlds fav airline these 3 days.
Sure Willie and Mick party together sometimes seen in Malahide, old friends Im sure from the Rocca days!
Ryanair ......... surely the Worlds fav airline these 3 days.
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It was nice of the BBC this morning to let us know that all BA international flights from MAN will be unaffected.
indeed...!
....but God preserve us, at least we didn't see the stock selection of
B737/757s rolling off 24,(yes thats 24 not 23, they are that old.)
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As Sport Relief are running the "Shirt of Hurt Campaign" where you wear an opposing teams shirt to raise money for charity maybe we could start a campaign related to BAs use of RYR...
The Planes Of Shame come to mind !
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On a more serious note Spanairs announcement of Madrid /Barcelona from BHX and their rationale for choosing BHX underlines exactly what I have been saying.....!
Whilst there "might" be a return/increase of pax on current services as the economy "hopefully" improves, its difficult to see where expansion will come from in the future. I assumed that when RYR set up at Manchester it would stem expansion at Liverpool in favour of Manchester. Now they are even more firmly entrenched it makes the situation even more precarious!
indeed...!
....but God preserve us, at least we didn't see the stock selection of
B737/757s rolling off 24,(yes thats 24 not 23, they are that old.)
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As Sport Relief are running the "Shirt of Hurt Campaign" where you wear an opposing teams shirt to raise money for charity maybe we could start a campaign related to BAs use of RYR...
The Planes Of Shame come to mind !
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On a more serious note Spanairs announcement of Madrid /Barcelona from BHX and their rationale for choosing BHX underlines exactly what I have been saying.....!
Whilst there "might" be a return/increase of pax on current services as the economy "hopefully" improves, its difficult to see where expansion will come from in the future. I assumed that when RYR set up at Manchester it would stem expansion at Liverpool in favour of Manchester. Now they are even more firmly entrenched it makes the situation even more precarious!
BA does still have an international route from MAN because I flew on it recently..... from Billund.
Sun Air provide the aircraft, and it's often one in BA colours.
That's why it's unaffected.
Sun Air provide the aircraft, and it's often one in BA colours.
That's why it's unaffected.
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Pax Figures 2009 v 1999
Whilst there "might" be a return/increase of pax on current services as the economy "hopefully" improves, its difficult to see where expansion will come from in the future. I assumed that when RYR set up at Manchester it would stem expansion at Liverpool in favour of Manchester. Now they are even more firmly entrenched it makes the situation even more precarious!
Manchester doing about the same as LHR, LGW & GLA.
Birmingham - 9,102,960 / 7,013,776 up 29.79%
Heathrow - 66,027,456 / 62,268,292 up 6.04%
Gatwick - 32,392,943 / 30,563,627 up 5.99%
Manchester - 18,724,889 / 17,577,773 up 6.53%
Stansted - 19,957,077 / 9,448,359 up 111.22%
Glasgow - 7,225,021 / 6,813,932 up 6.03%
Luton - 9,120,546 / 5,284,812 up 72.58%
Edinburgh - 9,049,355 / 5,119,258 up 76.77%
East Midlands - 4,658,149 / 2,229,536 up 108.93%
Belfast Int - 4,546,475 / 3,035,907 up 49.76%
Bristol - 5,642,921 / 1,993,331 up 183.09%
Newcastle - 4,587,883 / 2,995,051 up 53.23%
Liverpool - 4,884,494 / 1,304,959 up 274.30%
Whole UK - 218,645,809 / 168,363,000 up 64.80%
Manchester doing about the same as LHR, LGW & GLA.
Birmingham - 9,102,960 / 7,013,776 up 29.79%
Heathrow - 66,027,456 / 62,268,292 up 6.04%
Gatwick - 32,392,943 / 30,563,627 up 5.99%
Manchester - 18,724,889 / 17,577,773 up 6.53%
Stansted - 19,957,077 / 9,448,359 up 111.22%
Glasgow - 7,225,021 / 6,813,932 up 6.03%
Luton - 9,120,546 / 5,284,812 up 72.58%
Edinburgh - 9,049,355 / 5,119,258 up 76.77%
East Midlands - 4,658,149 / 2,229,536 up 108.93%
Belfast Int - 4,546,475 / 3,035,907 up 49.76%
Bristol - 5,642,921 / 1,993,331 up 183.09%
Newcastle - 4,587,883 / 2,995,051 up 53.23%
Liverpool - 4,884,494 / 1,304,959 up 274.30%
Whole UK - 218,645,809 / 168,363,000 up 64.80%
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Cheers BHXDME but not sure on the point here ?
Those figures prove nothing in respect of MANs comparison with LHR, LGW both of which are capacity constrained and did not therefore suffer a massive increase and subsequent decrease on the way to those targets.
In addition a lot of new capacity /demand was added albeit in an indirect way by expansion in the South East by Stansted. Certainly pax coming into UK to visit London might now also use STN whereas before they had no choice but to use LHR/LGW.
If you have it, a better trend analysis might be to show those airports at their peak over this period which have sebsequently fallen back. I suspect MAN experienced the greatest year on year increase against its "own" figures followed sadly by an almost identical decline.
One of the most significant elements of your table is the one at the bottom, Liverpool.
I suspect that it was once viewed as irrelevent, perhaps maybe even a minor irritation by MAN but it is now on circa 5m. It has arguably taken market share from MAN, a factor which was possibly disguised but also disregarded in a rapidly rising market.
The "Liverpool" effect may also be significant in culled routes at MAN where margins have fallen because of new services from their.
Long Haul is not a factor here so would be interesting to see how much of our losses are made up be these...any figures anybody ?
Those figures prove nothing in respect of MANs comparison with LHR, LGW both of which are capacity constrained and did not therefore suffer a massive increase and subsequent decrease on the way to those targets.
In addition a lot of new capacity /demand was added albeit in an indirect way by expansion in the South East by Stansted. Certainly pax coming into UK to visit London might now also use STN whereas before they had no choice but to use LHR/LGW.
If you have it, a better trend analysis might be to show those airports at their peak over this period which have sebsequently fallen back. I suspect MAN experienced the greatest year on year increase against its "own" figures followed sadly by an almost identical decline.
One of the most significant elements of your table is the one at the bottom, Liverpool.
I suspect that it was once viewed as irrelevent, perhaps maybe even a minor irritation by MAN but it is now on circa 5m. It has arguably taken market share from MAN, a factor which was possibly disguised but also disregarded in a rapidly rising market.
The "Liverpool" effect may also be significant in culled routes at MAN where margins have fallen because of new services from their.
Long Haul is not a factor here so would be interesting to see how much of our losses are made up be these...any figures anybody ?
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The "Liverpool" effect may also be significant in culled routes at MAN where margins have fallen because of new services from their.
