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Reported on another forum major route revision with 320's coming to Europe in greater numbers and Heathrow only with the 777 in the UK.
Some say Manchester flights from 10/1/10 are already removed from GDS and the Saudi site.
I checked the SV site and MAN was all shaded out in January and all GVA flights by A320.
Anyone confirm?
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Some say Manchester flights from 10/1/10 are already removed from GDS and the Saudi site.
I checked the SV site and MAN was all shaded out in January and all GVA flights by A320.
Anyone confirm?
Peter
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One rumour claimed heathrow would be the only European 777 destination for Saudi.
I can't check GDS as I don't have access but the MAN flights are believed to be removed.
Peter
I can't check GDS as I don't have access but the MAN flights are believed to be removed.
Peter
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Tk A340-300
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Campaigners say Gatwick runway a ‘non starter’ : Gatwick Airport News Stories
With Birmingham, Stansted, Gatwick and due to be Heathrow (unless that Toff really messes up over the EU Treaty but that is another story) - thank God MAN got it's runway in while it still could!
With Birmingham, Stansted, Gatwick and due to be Heathrow (unless that Toff really messes up over the EU Treaty but that is another story) - thank God MAN got it's runway in while it still could!
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October Traffic
Pax - 1,615,977 down 11.46% (or 210,000 less pax than Oct 08)
Movements - 14,849 down 15.4% (or 2,700 less movements than Oct 08)
Freight - 10,494 down 10.87%
Rolling 12m pax - 19,149,825 down 11.68%
Movements - 14,849 down 15.4% (or 2,700 less movements than Oct 08)
Freight - 10,494 down 10.87%
Rolling 12m pax - 19,149,825 down 11.68%
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I'm guessing the airline need the aircraft for the Haji flights and will be using an A320 on the GVA route and I guess not enough room on an A320 for both MAN and GVA so MAN will have to wait until the 777 returns.
That's my interpretation of the situation anyway - is that the case?
Thanks
That's my interpretation of the situation anyway - is that the case?
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Rumours!
SQ SIN-MUC-MAN 3/7 B77W
https://sws.fhkd.org/ ("Show Waitinglist" > "MUC" and "S10" > "Retrieve")
TK IST-MAN-LAX
Turkish Aviation November 2009 — Civil Aviation Forum | Airliners.net (starting Reply 22)
EK 017/018 DXB-MAN A380
FlyerTalk Forums - View Single Post - Emirates new routes (and changes) for 2010
https://sws.fhkd.org/ ("Show Waitinglist" > "MUC" and "S10" > "Retrieve")
TK IST-MAN-LAX
Turkish Aviation November 2009 — Civil Aviation Forum | Airliners.net (starting Reply 22)
EK 017/018 DXB-MAN A380
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just read about turkish airlines thread. good if it starts, someone has stated that it would not work, because british airways tried it and it failed due to poor loads!!! i flew on ba to lax from manchester full going coming back was on standby 4 five days, eventually i had to fly to london... so dont know where he got his info from!!
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Turkish MAN-LAX
Some bloke from Venezuala suggests this route from thin air on another internet website and we're off into the silly season!
As to BAs MAN-LAX, full though it often was in the peak season, overall it lost lots of money. Just because you see bums on seats does not equate to a profitable route. If THY decide to stop the progress of their LAX passengers by stopping in Manchester for a wee break then that's simply fabulous. Unless you started in Turkey when it simply becomes another pain in the ( numbed )arse of an already long flight.
Multi stop, multi country long haul drops like this hardly ever work. Look at Saudia for God's sake. It would be way simpler just to connect at Heathrow!
Even Singapore are turning the clock back to the 80s and stopping en-route. A non starter, or a one season wonder. Before anyone mentions PIA there are almost as many Pakistanis in the North West than there are anywhere else in the world so PIA is a local service airline. Turkish isn't.
As to BAs MAN-LAX, full though it often was in the peak season, overall it lost lots of money. Just because you see bums on seats does not equate to a profitable route. If THY decide to stop the progress of their LAX passengers by stopping in Manchester for a wee break then that's simply fabulous. Unless you started in Turkey when it simply becomes another pain in the ( numbed )arse of an already long flight.
Multi stop, multi country long haul drops like this hardly ever work. Look at Saudia for God's sake. It would be way simpler just to connect at Heathrow!
Even Singapore are turning the clock back to the 80s and stopping en-route. A non starter, or a one season wonder. Before anyone mentions PIA there are almost as many Pakistanis in the North West than there are anywhere else in the world so PIA is a local service airline. Turkish isn't.
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Is that not the Venezuelan who produces the trip reports on TK and seems to know quite a lot about them?
I think a IST-MAN-LAX would work very well. I BD would certainly help fill the plane, if LH allow them to take some of their traffic from their own German connections! Plus, IST-LAX on it's own would provide well over 50% of the capacity and I would definitely try out the J/F cabins on the MAN-IST service!
I guess that the current 10 times weekly flights may fall to more reasonable levels?
Obviously still a rumour, but even if there is nothing in it - it certainly is a viable idea for the ever expanding TK!
No-one can argue with the EK 'rumour'/done deal - it is only a matter of time. The route must be one of their best performing 2-class routes on their network and I think it can take an F class service!
The SQ seems very interesting. Obviously these applications don't always go through but it does show that SQ do still have the slightest interest in MAN. They also think that MAN can take an F cabin! Similar to the old 744 service MAN-GVA-SIN route. Will this replace the 77E route or will it be in addition?
Thanks - good times ahead for MAN - they need it!
I think a IST-MAN-LAX would work very well. I BD would certainly help fill the plane, if LH allow them to take some of their traffic from their own German connections! Plus, IST-LAX on it's own would provide well over 50% of the capacity and I would definitely try out the J/F cabins on the MAN-IST service!
I guess that the current 10 times weekly flights may fall to more reasonable levels? Obviously still a rumour, but even if there is nothing in it - it certainly is a viable idea for the ever expanding TK!
No-one can argue with the EK 'rumour'/done deal - it is only a matter of time. The route must be one of their best performing 2-class routes on their network and I think it can take an F class service!
The SQ seems very interesting. Obviously these applications don't always go through but it does show that SQ do still have the slightest interest in MAN. They also think that MAN can take an F cabin! Similar to the old 744 service MAN-GVA-SIN route. Will this replace the 77E route or will it be in addition?
Thanks - good times ahead for MAN - they need it!
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I think a IST-MAN-LAX would work very well.
BD would certainly help fill the plane, if LH allow them to take some of their traffic from their own German connections!
The route must be one of their best performing 2-class routes on their network and I think it can take an F class service!
MUFC_Fan you're usually one of the saners guys on here!
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Because IST-LAX is 6871 miles going off the Great Circle Mapper. This is greater than the range of TK's 330s, and on the margins of their 340s. Their 773ERs will be capable, but maybe that is too much capacity to start off the route with.
Could all be pie in the sky, but there are valid reasons why a one-stop IST-LAX service may be preferable, especially if routing via an airport that doesn't serve west coast USA, and (if) fifth freedom traffic is allowed.
Could all be pie in the sky, but there are valid reasons why a one-stop IST-LAX service may be preferable, especially if routing via an airport that doesn't serve west coast USA, and (if) fifth freedom traffic is allowed.