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Old 26th Jan 2009, 15:03
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AA have internally announced that one of the routes being launched will be JFK-MAN-JFK.

Now that they have internationally configured B75L's on the way, they are also re-evaluating BOS, as last time it was not loads that let the service down, it was the way in which the flight was operated/sold.
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Old 26th Jan 2009, 15:09
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NYC does need more competition and as much as we would love to see CO and DL increase their equipment size on the routes it is much more beneficial to MAN to have 3 different airlines. It now opens up more of the Caribbean and South America to MAN via JFK than it did before via ORD (I think) and for all TATL passengers on the route it will keep fares down unlike the rising prices we have been seeing recently due to the duopoly.

BOS would be a very nice return. I am guessing these would both be daily?
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Old 26th Jan 2009, 15:33
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That and the fact it was completely seasonal and had no feed. The only other long haul AA had at BOS was Paris and London. I don't think that since Boston wasn't succesful in recent ( boom times ) it will be more succesful due to an internal accounting whizz when it is very difficult in some firms to be approved allowed to fly on business.

I doubt seasonal VFR to the North West is at the top of the boardroom plans at DFW somehow. Could be wrong though. More competition IS good for fares but the flip side is that no one makes any money as yields dive. Hence you could have 2 Continentals, 1 Delta and 1 AA one summer and half that the next. as fleets go where the yield is. Be careful what you wish for chaps.

( happened at Glasgow )

It was partly the reason that BA left was that yields were falling. I know there were other reasons but the arrival of Delta added a lot of capacity.
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The connections offered at JFK are different to those at ORD, so AA can sustain both routes.

BOS would be daily, but seasonal just like it used to be at MAN. Like I said, it was the fact that the whole setup was wrong last time, and the fact it operated more than one season is testement to the fact that this could be a good route.

The fact is, AA have sat back and let BA dictate how the regions should work in the UK, but AA have seen pax numbers dwindle due to other carriers on route AA would happily operate, and now AA have turned around and said to BA, 'enough is enogh'

Now AA want a piece of the TATL pie that CO/DL have been feasting on
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Old 26th Jan 2009, 15:36
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I remember as I was still Manchester based at the time, discussing the JFK flight with the AA rep when they dropped it, it was very much down to BA being on the route and feeding pax. As BA are not on the route anymore the situation is somewhat different, so hence the re-evaluation one would guess.

Re Saudia, I find my self struggling with the concept of anything being more hassle than transitting Heathrow.
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Old 26th Jan 2009, 15:45
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but AA have seen pax numbers dwindle due to other carriers on route AA would happily operate, and now AA have turned around and said to BA, 'enough is enogh'
What are you basing this on? Their core Chicago route isn't even daily this winter and you've got them ADDING capacity in the worst recession in living memory. Earth to planespotters, reality check please!!!!
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Actually, they are going back up to daily again so things are back up. Granted there are lots of other routes they could have done this to, but the reduction was due to the B763's needed for carribean routes.

Also, I am not a planespotter and to start throwing childish slurs around is just pointless, it adds nothing to the post other than a sense of arrogance
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AA are currently recruiting extra ground staff for the summer, 2 permanent and 4 temporary.
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Old 26th Jan 2009, 16:04
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Air Canada

Late last year someone mentioned that Air Canada was resuming flights from Manchester on 29th March. I can't find any evidence of this and nothing seems to be bookable. Any ideas?
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I think the more likely take is that the 18 B757s that AA are putting on the atlantic are covering the roughly similar number of B767s that are going to replace the grounded A300s. I'd be surprised if there was a marked expansion, looks more like a sensible reshuffle of assets.
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Old 28th Jan 2009, 09:18
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AA have internally announced that one of the routes being launched will be JFK-MAN-JFK.

Now that they have internationally configured B75L's on the way, they are also re-evaluating BOS,
AA are currently recruiting extra ground staff for the summer, 2 permanent and 4 temporary.
Who have they announced it to? The AA staff at MAN don't seem to know anything about it.

Possible BOS this summer but a JFK is next year at the earliest surely.
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Old 30th Jan 2009, 09:36
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Hi

I know wikipedia isnt the best source but i read this on the MAN airport section of wiki:

FedEx ExpressBirmingham, Newark, Memphis, Frankfurt, Indianapolis, Oakland (start in september 2009)


Is this true???
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Old 30th Jan 2009, 15:56
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Newark on a 757 true.
Memphis on md11 true.
Birmingham and paris on atr42 true.
Others no.
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Old 30th Jan 2009, 16:10
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Newark and Memphis are due to start.
Oakland was due to start but current economic climate means no
Indeanapolis is planned as a tag on from STN but I dont know how thats progressing

BHX/CDG are ATR72 routes, along with GLA/NCL and I think other destinations
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Old 30th Jan 2009, 22:10
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Thought FedEx had pulled out of MAN.
What's the routing you guys are talking about?
MAN-EWR
MAN-OAK
MAN-BHX ??
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Old 30th Jan 2009, 22:53
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MAN-EWR, MAN-MEM and then connecting flights, it was due to start in Feb but I believe delayed to September


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Old 31st Jan 2009, 17:55
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Okay thanks for the info.

Also, is the route a chinese airline was going to operate during 2009 still happening?

thnaks
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Old 31st Jan 2009, 21:19
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Fed ex flights are indeed now planned to start in sept.
China airlines had planned to start pax ops this march but due to the current economic climate this 2 has been delayed poss until next march(2010).
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Old 1st Feb 2009, 16:49
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WW

A quick check of the timetable shows that WW have been dropping flights on a number of routes.

I don't think they have dropped a destination other than MAD announced earlier but have reduced frequency on a number of Destinations
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Old 1st Feb 2009, 20:05
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WW

I predict LIS/BCN to go too, given the state of the euro.
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